Senate Votes to Protect Second Amendment Rights During Emergencies

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    Senate Votes to Protect Second Amendment Rights During Emergencies

    Just got this article in from NRA.

    Fairfax, VA - On July 13, the United States Senate overwhelmingly passed (84-16) an amendment (#4615) to the Homeland Security appropriations bill (H.R. 5441). This amendment -- sponsored by Senator David Vitter (R-LA) -- prohibits the use of funds appropriated under HR 5441 for the confiscation of lawfully possessed firearms during an emergency or major disaster.

    Commenting on the passage of the amendment, NRA-ILA Executive Director and chief lobbyist Chris W. Cox said, "After Hurricane Katrina, the New Orleans Police Superintendent issued orders to confiscate firearms from all citizens, allegedly under a state emergency powers law. With that one order, he stripped the one means of self-protection innocent citizens had during a time of widespread civil disorder. This legislation guarantees that will never happen again."

    Various reports indicate that military and law enforcement agencies from the federal government and several states confiscated guns from law-abiding New Orleans residents. The Vitter Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to seize firearms or restrict firearms possession, except in the circumstances allowed by current federal or state law. Convicted felons and other "prohibited persons" are not protected under this legislation and it does not effect law enforcement operations outside of disaster relief situations.

    "In passing this legislation, the United States Senate acted to protect the self-defense rights of citizens when those rights are most vital. There was no 9-1-1 or police to rely on while looters and rapists and thugs ran rampant and honest citizens were left to their own devices to protect themselves, their families and their neighbors. I want to thank Senator Vitter for introducing this amendment and all the Senators who supported it."

    In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and the resulting gun confiscations, NRA filed suit in federal court and won a temporary restraining order ending all the illegal gun confiscations. After the City of New Orleans failed to comply with the court’s ruling, NRA filed a motion of contempt that included an order that all seized firearms be returned to their rightful owners.

    Due to NRA’s leadership, emergency powers legislation prohibiting government officials from restricting the rights of law-abiding gun owners during declared states of emergency passed in 10 states during the 2006 legislative session, including Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, Alaska, Idaho, Kentucky, New Hampshire, and Oklahoma.

    While the passage of the Vitter Amendment in the U.S. Senate represents an important victory for America’s law-abiding gun owners, the job is not yet finished. It is vital that this provision be included in the final version of the bill that emerges from the House and Senate conference committee later this year.
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    Excellent....
    Thats a step in the right direction.....
    Just need the names of the ones who voted "Nay"....
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    Very good news! Hard to believe the vote was that lop-sided in the Senate
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    Lightbulb Another Victory (almost) for the 2nd Amendment

    US Senate votes to bar emergency gun confiscation
    al Reuters ^ | 7/13/06 | staff



    WASHINGTON, July 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate on Thursday voted to prohibit the confiscation of legally owned guns during an emergency like last year's Hurricane Katrina, marking another victory for the gun lobby.

    By a vote of 84-16, the Senate embraced an amendment by Sen. David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican. He attached his measure to a domestic security spending bill for the fiscal year starting Oct. 1 that the Senate is expected to pass soon.

    The U.S. House of Representatives has passed its version of the spending bill and negotiators will have to decide whether to keep the gun provision. The House is usually sympathetic to gun owners.

    Citing the constitutional right to bear arms, Vitter said that during an emergency people should be allowed to hold onto "legally possessed firearms to defend your life, your property" at a time when telephone lines and cell phones probably are not operating and victims "can't reach out to law enforcement authorities."

    ExSoldier's NOTE: I was more worried about passage in the Senate than in the House. But look at the figures: 84 votes in favor of passage WITH the pro-gun amendment. Have the Dems finally figured out that gun control is a loser for them? OR are they merely biding their time, not wanting to draw any public attention to their antigun agenda so close to primaries and the off season election in Nov? Just remember: The party in CONTROL also controls the bills that get sent to the floor for votes. They control the Amendment process. Do you think this bill would have gotten to the floor with the progun amendment if the OTHER guys were in charge?
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    Hooray for common sense! This is good news indeed!

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    Merging two threads dealing with the same good news
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    Good merge!

    Indeed this seems well needed and desirable - I hope there are no hidden stings in the tail (sorry - old cynic here!).

    Just wonder whether has any teeth at all following an executive order!
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    A step in the right direction.

    I wonder, though, about just what you're supposed to do IF the LEO's/Nat'l Guard IGNORE the law and confiscate anyway?

    Can you sue'em? (suin' 'em won't do you any good if they take your guns and some scumbag rioter kills you, but it might help your family down the road)....

    Is disarming the populace under such conditions a prosecutable felony, as it should be?

    Are you immune from RESISTING, including resistance up to and including deadly force, such an illegal order?

    Still, it's better to have this law than not have it. Worlds better.

    Maybe we need some legislative follow-up on it.

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    "The Vitter Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to seize firearms or restrict firearms possession, except in the circumstances allowed by current federal or state law."

    Is it just me or does this pretty much make the whole ammendment ineffectual?

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    except in the circumstances allowed by current federal or state law."
    That does seem somewhat of a kicker - maybe what I was thinking when I referred to effects from an executive order!
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    In case you were curious which Senators voted against the Vitter Amendment. I think you will find the usual suspects.

    Akaka (D-HI)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Kennedy (D-MA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Sarbanes (D-MD)
    Schumer (D-NY)
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    A regular freakin' "rogue's gallery"....or "the usual suspects". Your choice.

    Akaka (D-HI)
    Boxer (D-CA)
    Clinton (D-NY)
    Dodd (D-CT)
    Durbin (D-IL)
    Feinstein (D-CA)
    Harkin (D-IA)
    Inouye (D-HI)
    Kennedy (D-MA)
    Lautenberg (D-NJ)
    Levin (D-MI)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Mikulski (D-MD)
    Reed (D-RI)
    Sarbanes (D-MD)
    Schumer (D-NY)

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    Same ole communist, anti american, proUN sumbiches every time. Look at the states represented there.
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    All except California and Hawaii was a Yankee State.

    Anybody other than me wonder why its always seem to be that way ?
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    You got a point, HotGuns....not many gun control measures orginate from South of the Mason-Dixon line. Even southern states with large population centers like Georgia, Florida or North Carolina.

    In fact, this legislation originated from a southern state with a large population ceneter, I think.

    HOWEVER, we are NOT to forget our brethren from the North. Michigan is about as Pro-Gun as anyplace in the South. So (perhaps excluding Philadelphia) is Pennsylvania, Vermont (open carry, closed carry, all carry, etc.), and a host of others.

    There are probably more anti-gun locales in the North than the South, and they are more likely to be in major population centers.

    But not everyone up there is the enemy (at least not since 1865)

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    But not everyone up there is the enemy (at least not since 1865)
    I realize that. Unfortunatley, the ones that are making the rules up there seem to be otherwise...they often act like the citizens are the enemy.

    Their actions speak louder than words.
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