Still another new law proposed by schumer

Still another new law proposed by schumer

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    Exclamation Still another new law proposed by schumer

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    U.S. SENATE

    Schumer Pushes for Military to Report Applicants' Drug Use to Prevent Gun Purchases
    Published January 16, 2011 | FoxNews.com

    WASHINGTON -- If someone admits to a federal official that he's used illegal drugs, that information should be sent to the FBI so that person can be disqualified from purchasing a gun, Sen. Chuck Schumer said Sunday.

    Noting that the alleged shooter in the Tucson massacre had admitted to military recruiters that he had used drugs on several occasions, Schumer said he is proposing to the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that the military be required to notify federal officials about such admissions. The New York Democrat said such a process does not require new legislation.

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    Another moonbat idea to limit freedom. Think this idea might hamper efforts to recruit for the military? Folks might not want to RISK their ability to lawfully own a gun based on some politicians "feel good" act of bureaucratic lunacy.
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    The only thing that will satisfy chucky schemer is a total ban on private ownership of firearms, naturally he and his private security detail will be exempt.
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    Yep, and if you were breast fed as a baby you should have to report your address as a sex offender!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
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    Schumer Pushes for Military to Report Applicants' Drug Use to Prevent Gun Purchases

    WASHINGTON -- If someone admits to a federal official that he's used illegal drugs, that information should be sent to the FBI so that person can be disqualified from purchasing a gun, Sen. Chuck Schumer said Sunday.
    This could prove to be much more effective for our country if proven/admitted drug use also disqualified one from running for office, i.e., Congress, and the Presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    This could prove to be much more effective for our country if proven/admitted drug use also disqualified one from running for office, i.e., Congress, and the Presidency.
    Amen.
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    Hey this will work, as we all know all criminals run down the thier local recruiter in order to admitt to illegal activity......... Fail safe process....

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    One, probably the majority of youths have used some drug at some time.
    Two, that would only encourage them to lie about it.

    I'd rather have them admit their "indiscresion" and move on as law-abiding citizens than have them lie or be seen as that 1-in-1 million who will commit a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Yep, and if you were breast fed as a baby you should have to report your address as a sex offender!

    HaHa sexual misconduct.

    How many of these YAMBAG politicians have used drugs illegally and have weapon permits.
    One more step and it's on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...gun-purchases/

    U.S. SENATE

    Schumer Pushes for Military to Report Applicants' Drug Use to Prevent Gun Purchases
    Published January 16, 2011 | FoxNews.com

    WASHINGTON -- If someone admits to a federal official that he's used illegal drugs, that information should be sent to the FBI so that person can be disqualified from purchasing a gun, Sen. Chuck Schumer said Sunday.

    Noting that the alleged shooter in the Tucson massacre had admitted to military recruiters that he had used drugs on several occasions, Schumer said he is proposing to the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that the military be required to notify federal officials about such admissions. The New York Democrat said such a process does not require new legislation.

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    Another moonbat idea to limit freedom. Think this idea might hamper efforts to recruit for the military? Folks might not want to RISK their ability to lawfully own a gun based on some politicians "feel good" act of bureaucratic lunacy.

    People who use illegal drugs are breaking the law when they buy a firearm. Even just the use of marajuana, as the Tucson shooter was addicted to, makes one ineligible to buy a gun. He clearly committed a crime when he falsely filled out the paperwork to purchase his Glock.

    Why on earth would you oppose enforcing our current gun laws against drug addicts buying guns? That is really a crazy idea to back.

    This is an excellent idea that any reasonable person should fully support.

    No one has the freedom to smoke pot in the USA. That is not a right guaranteed in the US Constitution.

    It is clear that the Tucson shootings were caused by the effects of reefer madness. Marijuana has been scientifically documented as having a very adverse effect on people who are schizophrenic. It makes their insanity much worse. Hallucinations and detachment from reality both become more profound under the influence of marijuana.

    This insane killer had no right at all to buy a gun.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerby View Post
    Hey this will work, as we all know all criminals run down the thier local recruiter in order to admitt to illegal activity......... Fail safe process....
    Actually, the US military is now testing applicants, as they don't want to take in drug users. You would know this if you had read up on the investigation in the Tucson shooting case. The killer failed a drug test.

    I had to take a drug test just to get a very ordinary job, which doesn't even involve any special responsibilities or safety issues. The simple fact was that my employer just doesn't want to hire any drug addicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    This could prove to be much more effective for our country if proven/admitted drug use also disqualified one from running for office, i.e., Congress, and the Presidency.
    We know that Clinton said that he actually never inhaled. And it is also not clear if Obama inhaled or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    This could prove to be much more effective for our country if proven/admitted drug use also disqualified one from running for office, i.e., Congress, and the Presidency.
    Or convicted of a crime, especially a felony. That might require a few to leave office right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceORYGUN View Post
    People who use illegal drugs are breaking the law when they buy a firearm. Even just the use of marajuana, as the Tucson shooter was addicted to, makes one ineligible to buy a gun. He clearly committed a crime when he falsely filled out the paperwork to purchase his Glock.
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    The difference is that (assuming your assertion is correct, I'm unfamiliar with the applicable laws-as I don't, nor have I ever, used any drugs) there is a huge difference between using drugs and having used drugs at some point.

    Schumer wants to prohibit gun purchases by anyone who admits that they have ever done drugs. That means that the 70-year-old law-abiding citizen cannot buy a gun because he admitted having smoked marijuana once when he was 20 (though it was legal at the time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigs View Post
    Or convicted of a crime, especially a felony. That might require a few to leave office right now.
    There is a sitting Congressman, I'll not name names or party affiliation so this doesn't become political, who it seems has a past involving stealing a car, an arrest while carrying a concealed weapon, and a connection to arson.

    The man's explanation: “Everyone has a past.”

    Xader in post #13 makes a really good point when he writes, "That means that the 70-year-old law-abiding citizen cannot buy a gun because he admitted having smoked marijuana once when he was 20 (though it was legal at the time)."

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    I don't agree with this as worded at all, and can't see it passing. The example of the 70 year old is perfect. For that matter if someone smoked pot 10 years ago and stopped, that shouldn't keep them from buying a gun now, regardless of the age of the person.
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