BAFTE new shotgun rulings??

This is a discussion on BAFTE new shotgun rulings?? within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; A friend of mine sent this to me: http://blog.princelaw.com/2011/1/20/...un-importation and there is some other supporting stuff on the interweb, saying that the ATF was supposed ...

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    BAFTE new shotgun rulings??

    A friend of mine sent this to me: http://blog.princelaw.com/2011/1/20/...un-importation

    and there is some other supporting stuff on the interweb, saying that the ATF was supposed to issue a ruling today about classifying some shotguns as destructive devices. But apparently no one knows which shotguns, but people think the Saiga is a candidate. Apparently the ATF said something about this at the SHOT Show last week.

    I don't usually get into fear mongering and spreading this stuff. But there are a large number of Saiga-12 fans on here, and a wide knowledge base. So, has anyone heard anything, or am I safe to take off my tin foil hat?
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    Nothing on www.ATF.gov yet - 24 Jan 11 @ 1707 EST
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    They all work the same way, they all fire the same ammo. I don't see where they can classify one differently than another, but then reason and logic were never strengths of any gov agency.
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    You should all know by now it has nothing to do with power, ammo, function, etc. It's only about how scary they look. The Saiga 12 looks like an AK, therefore it meets the BATFE criteria.

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    Well hells bells, you can bet the new Kel Tec KSG will likely make that list. Yep, it'll likely have a starring role at the very top of the list.

    Even though it's got a full 18.5 inch barrel, and is a pump action shotgun, it just looks scary, and that's enough for the ATF. Plus it's short overall length and high magazine capacity of 14 will likely see it on the list if the BATFE does that.

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    I've been looking around all the past few hours trying to find something more credible.

    There is some speculation that it is actually about the new Taurus 28 gauge revolver, and Rossi .410 mare's leg.

    Or, maybe its just bum scoop...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Well hells bells, you can bet the new Kel Tec KSG will likely make that list. Yep, it'll likely have a starring role at the very top of the list.

    Even though it's got a full 18.5 inch barrel, and is a pump action shotgun, it just looks scary, and that's enough for the ATF. Plus it's short overall length and high magazine capacity of 14 will likely see it on the list if the BATFE does that.

    You have no idea how badly I want one of those.
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    Shhhhh Shhhhhhhhhh !! looks like a Squirrel gun to me Me to Jumpwing


    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Well hells bells, you can bet the new Kel Tec KSG will likely make that list. Yep, it'll likely have a starring role at the very top of the list.

    Even though it's got a full 18.5 inch barrel, and is a pump action shotgun, it just looks scary, and that's enough for the ATF. Plus it's short overall length and high magazine capacity of 14 will likely see it on the list if the BATFE does that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Well hells bells, you can bet the new Kel Tec KSG will likely make that list. Yep, it'll likely have a starring role at the very top of the list.

    Even though it's got a full 18.5 inch barrel, and is a pump action shotgun, it just looks scary, and that's enough for the ATF. Plus it's short overall length and high magazine capacity of 14 will likely see it on the list if the BATFE does that.

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    Thanks a lot guys!

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    http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/pr...ec-shotgun-ksg
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    Oh yeah, I'll likely be getting the Kel Tec as well. If BATFE doesn't put the kibosh on it.

    Here's the link to the thread we have running here at DC.com Kel Tec is planning a new shotgun design. The KSG
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    Ah yes, the KSG, the more I look into it, the more I want to try one out, and maybe buy one.
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    'Big gun, Short lived. Taurus 28 Gauge Revolver.'
    "On Friday night Michael Bane told me that BATFE visited the Taurus booth at SHOT Show and declared that the 28 gauge revolver was in fact a SBS (Short Barreled Shotgun), not a handgun."

    Source - http://networkedblogs.com/dpw4G

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    I'd have thought AOW but hell the BATFE can call stuff whatever it wants, it's their nomenclature.
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    Thanks Janq, I didn't realize how massive that "revolver" was until I saw that pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    'Big gun, Short lived. Taurus 28 Gauge Revolver.'
    "On Friday night Michael Bane told me that BATFE visited the Taurus booth at SHOT Show and declared that the 28 gauge revolver was in fact a SBS (Short Barreled Shotgun), not a handgun."

    Source - http://networkedblogs.com/dpw4G

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    I'd have thought AOW but hell the BATFE can call stuff whatever it wants, it's their nomenclature.
    I was wondering how they were getting around it, seems they weren't. Thank you very much for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    'Big gun, Short lived. Taurus 28 Gauge Revolver.'
    "On Friday night Michael Bane told me that BATFE visited the Taurus booth at SHOT Show and declared that the 28 gauge revolver was in fact a SBS (Short Barreled Shotgun), not a handgun."

    I'd have thought AOW but hell the BATFE can call stuff whatever it wants, it's their nomenclature.
    It can't be an SBS without a stock. I call BS.

    That KSG won't be a DD because it is a pump shotgun. The Streetsweeper shotgun is a DD because it's an autoloader.
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