Colorado introduces Constitutional Carry into State Legislature

Colorado introduces Constitutional Carry into State Legislature

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    Colorado introduces Constitutional Carry into State Legislature

    Just received this Email from RMGO

    Constitutional Carry introduced in Colorado Legislature

    Yesterday State Rep. Chris Holbert (R-Parker) and State Sen. Greg Brophy (R-Wray) introduced HB1205, the Constitutional Carry Act of 2011.

    This bill is designed to do one thing: allow citizens who are legally eligible to possess handguns to carry that handgun without obtaining a costly, burdensome and bureaucratic permit.

    One of the chief advantages this bill presents is that citizens are not put on any government tracking list merely for carrying the tools for self defense. Citizens in Vermont, Alaska and Arizona currently enjoy that right, and Wyoming could be joining that list in the next few months.

    Just as important as what HB1205 does are what it does not do:

    * Does not repeal or otherwise change Colorado’s existing concealed carry permit law (CRS 18-12-201).
    * Does not authorize the carrying of a concealed handgun by felons, the mentally ill, juveniles or anyone otherwise prohibited from possessing a handgun under state and federal law.
    * Does not change where concealed handguns are allowed as defined by CRS 18-12-214.
    * Does not affect reciprocity agreements with other states in any manner.
    * Does not affect the ability of prosecutors to pursue charges for other crimes.

    This bill is a major step for freedom, and is something every gun owner in Colorado should get behind.

    Make sure you sign our petition for this bill by clicking here. We’ll let you know as soon as this bill is scheduled for a House Committee.

    For Freedom,

    Dudley Brown
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    P.S. If you’d like to support the passage of this bill financially, you can do so by clicking here.
    Were a Dem controlled govt, but I think this is the first time this has been introduced. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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    Denver [city and county of] is going to be the sticky part to get by. They managed to get preemption over state law on OC when the CC laws were being written.
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    My fam in laws are in Boluder.... uggh I carry every day im in that town. There are so many un-armed health nut sheep running around that I know there are predator wolves there to take advantage of that. I guess I will be armed and ready when they strike. I bet there is going to be a revolt at CU Boulder when and if this passes.
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    Oddly enough, Boulder has more firearm sales than any other city in CO, at least that was the numbers back in '07. Not sure what the CC permit issue is for there.
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    I'm always glad to hear about another state reaffirming our rights and allowing constitutional carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    Denver [city and county of] is going to be the sticky part to get by. They managed to get preemption over state law on OC when the CC laws were being written.
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    Good luck Colorado! That will be a good piece of legislation if it passes.
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    We are slowly getting there.

    There is not supposed to be a list of CC, but there is, and it is tied to the vehicle registration and when they run your name, it comes up on the list of people with warrants.

    I'd like to see the duty to retreat go away. It's good procedure to try to defuse or get out of the situation, but with the duty to retreat, some DAs will argue that you did not do enough if it comes to that.

    Public transit is still a hazy gray area.

    Just the thought of it's going to throw the sheep into a panic stampede, especially the ones from CA. In reality, I'd guess the ones interested in carrying, have either gotten their permit, or want to, but do not want to be on the list (don't like Govt' meddling).

    CO already has really low requirements for permit. No live fire, 5 hour minimum class on the laws. The ones that will be impacted are the Sheriff's offices due to loss of revenue. For the most part, if you can buy a gun, you can get the permit. It's the revocation issue that may come up.
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    Colorado is a classic example of a "blue state", politically speaking. Overwhelmingly conservative on most fiscal and social issues over 90% of the map, but dominated by leftist politics of the major metropolitan areas.

    My prediction is that this will be "dead on arrival" in the legislature. In the unlikely event of passage, our new governor would likely wield the veto pen.

    I think this would stand a far better chance as a ballot initiative. Colorado has quite an open process for constitutional amendment based upon ballot initiatives (which our state legislature is trying very hard to change, simply because the people hold more power than the politicos wish to leave outside their own control).
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    Just received this email from RMGO,

    House Judiciary Committee passes Constitutional Carry 8 to 3

    Nice work. Constitutional Carry -- HB1205 -- passed out of its committee yesterday and moved to the House Floor thanks to your calls and e-mails.

    State Rep. Chris Holbert (R-Parker) -- who is a long-time RMGO member and activist -- did a fantastic job of presenting the bill and framing the debate when presenting it to the House Judiciary Committee.

    Rep. Holbert told the committee that open carry in public areas is legal in most parts of Colorado and requires no permit, no fees, no training and no lists, but the second you cover the handgun with a coat or sweater you are required to obtain a permit.

    In essence, he said, it's a Coat Tax. Put your coat on, and you have to pay the tax. His bill would make that a voluntary tax, since there would be no need to pay the tax (acquire a permit) if HB1205 becomes law.

    RMGO Executive Director Dudley Brown then testified to the growing movement of states allowing permitless carry, and the many more which are considering passing just such a law. In Vermont, Alaska and now Arizona, there has been no increase in crime.

    Both of those messages resonated with members of the committee, and the bill passed with the votes of every Republican and even two Democrats.

    This is just one more great example of how effective your voice really is.

    Now the work gets tougher. The bill is headed for the House floor, where we really have to turn up the heat. If you and I want Constitutional Carry in Colorado, we must make politicians feel the heat with our phone calls and e-mails.

    The House Co-sponsors on HB1205 are:

    Acree, Balmer, Barker, Baumgardner, Becker, Bradford, Brown, Conti, DelGrosso, Holbert, Joshi, Kerr J., Looper, Massey, McKinley, McNulty, Murray, Nikkel, Priola, Scott, Sonnenberg, Stephens, Summers, Swerdfeger, Vaad, Waller.

    In addition, Reps. Bob Gardner, Daniel Kagan and Pete Lee have now voted for this bill in Committee.

    If you don't see your State Representative on either of these lists, they have not yet co-sponsored this bill or voted in favor of it yet. It is imperative that you take just a few minutes to do this simple two-step process before the House floor vote.

    If they are on this list, take a moment to contact them and tell them to keep up the good work and continue to support this important bill.

    1) Click on this link to find your State Representative if you don't already know.

    2) Call your Representative. The phone number for all State Representatives is 303-866-2904 or toll free at 1-800-811-7647.

    * Tell them you stand with Rocky Mountain Gun Owners.
    * Tell them it is vital they support Constitutional Carry in Colorado without further amendments.
    * And tell them you are watching their vote carefully and counting on their support.

    Again, you can reach all State Representatives by calling 303-866-2904 or toll free at 1-800-811-7647 and they'll connect you to your State Representative.

    Constitutional Carry in Colorado depends on your involvement.

    Please join us in the push to get this bill past the House.
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    We need to wield the Telephones and Faxes and E-Mail boxes for this - we should keep the pressure up and constant until it passes, fails, or is vetoed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    We need to wield the Telephones and Faxes and E-Mail boxes for this - we should keep the pressure up and constant until it passes, fails, or is vetoed.
    Oh, I suspect with Hickenlooper in the seat, it will get vetoed if it manages to make it through both houses unscathed. Whether it will get an override is another story.

    I have not read the bill, but I am hoping it completely does away with local jurisdiction preemption on OC.

    Including Denver city and county, there are IIRC 5 other metro cities on the front range that have a ban on OC, and who knows how many of the rural towns.
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