Positive change for Kansas

Positive change for Kansas

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    Positive change for Kansas




    Kansas Permit holders may now use their CCW in lieu of NICS background check.

    ATF Open Letter
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    Great, isn't it. Another step in the right direction.
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    Well, it's better than a step back...
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    This may seem to be an insignificant rule except....

    Other states will take note and some may also enact similar statutes to stay on par. Kansas has become a model gun friendly state for law abiding permit holders. They watched and waited to see what effect modern carry laws would have on other states before they updated their own statutes. When Kansas did make changes to their firearms statues, they crafted laws that now set the bar for other states to follow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGP250 View Post
    This may seem to be an insignificant rule except....

    Other states will take note and some may also enact similar statutes to stay on par. Kansas has become a model gun friendly state for law abiding permit holders. They watched and waited to see what effect modern carry laws would have on other states before they updated their own statutes. When Kansas did make changes to their firearms statues, they crafted laws that now set the bar for other states to follow.
    I hear ya about KS. But Missouri isn't a state to sneeze at either. We have a pretty good laws here too, as you well know. Always room for improvement, but I'm not disappointed in what we have either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    I hear ya about KS. But Missouri isn't a state to sneeze at either. We have a pretty good laws here too, as you well know. Always room for improvement, but I'm not disappointed in what we have either.
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    My point exactly. I believe Kansas took a wait and see approach while watching how Missouri's revised statues preformed. Kansas then largely modeled their revised carry statutes based on Missouri Firearms statutes.
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    We need to take models from every state.

    WA prosecution laws - no cost to you if found innocent.
    TX sundown property laws/castle doctrine - open season, no size restrictions or bag limit
    IA reciprocity - EVERYONE
    Constitutional carry states - OC and CC
    UT campus carrry

    Then there are those little technicalities like jurisdictional preemption, restaurant carry, gun buster signs, proximity to schools, state and federal buildings, parks, etc.

    I have a dream that there will be a perfect collaboration of civilian carry laws put together as simple as the 2A is written, permanently bonded into each states constitution.
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    I like it, my backround check comes back delayed every time, this will sure speed the process. Makes me want to buy something!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    We need to take models from every state.

    WA prosecution laws - no cost to you if found innocent.
    TX sundown property laws/castle doctrine - open season, no size restrictions or bag limit
    IA reciprocity - EVERYONE
    Constitutional carry states - OC and CC
    UT campus carrry
    Don't forget INDIANA = Lifetime ccw permit. Woo Hoo! Missouri needs that option!
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    I pheasant hunt in Kansas so i am glad when good things happen there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    We need to take models from every state.

    WA prosecution laws - no cost to you if found innocent.
    TX sundown property laws/castle doctrine - open season, no size restrictions or bag limit
    IA reciprocity - EVERYONE
    Constitutional carry states - OC and CC
    UT campus carrry

    Then there are those little technicalities like jurisdictional preemption, restaurant carry, gun buster signs, proximity to schools, state and federal buildings, parks, etc.

    I have a dream that there will be a perfect collaboration of civilian carry laws put together as simple as the 2A is written, permanently bonded into each states constitution.
    That's for sure.

    I want my cake and I want to eat it too. I would like to see less Federal government gun control but at the same time I would like to see more State AG's and legislators come to common agreement on firearms statutes, without giving up any individual States rights.
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    Texas has had the CHL license holders don't need a background check for firearms purchases for over 5 years I know of.makes everything go really smooth,I have used it at least 1/2 dozen times.Right now were trying to get Campus Carry passed
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    Nice! I wish Colorado would follow. You also got rid of K. Sebelius.

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