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    Constitution Authority??

    FORGET THE SECOND AMENDMENT for the moment.

    Do you think that the Federal Government has Constitutional Authority to legislate firearms?

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    No, but some may consider gun legislation "providing for the common defense and general welfare."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Shot View Post
    No, but some may consider gun legislation "providing for the common defense and general welfare."
    some would consider a permit to talk "providing for the common defense and general welfare." IE shutting down talk radio.
    I am sure that with out too much looking you can find some that may consider just about anything "providing for the common defense and general welfare."
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    Is it in the enumerated powers clause??? Didn't think so. Is it explicitly stated elsewhere in the constitution??? Nope. Is gun legislation by the feds a power grab??? Yup. Is it the only thing the feds are doing that has no constitutional mandate/support??? Not a chance. I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Shot View Post
    No, but some may consider gun legislation "providing for the common defense and general welfare."
    IIRC, the feds actually got there through the much abused interstate commerce clause.
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    There are a lot of things that the government controls that they really have no right intruding upon. It is a long list, and I don't want to waste anyone's time. Number one on the list is the issue of gun control at the federal level, its a state thing.
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    I don't understand...How someone can have a "constitutional authority" to legislate something when you say to "forget part of the constitution" (2nd amendment)
    Isn't that like saying "Forget the law against speeding-Do they have the authority to regulate driving habits?"

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    Don't be SILLY,

    Thats like saying they have the authority to legislate/ban Automobiles, airplanes, swimming pools, knives & buckets .

    We need to take back our country.

    Before it is taken away from us ALL the way, and substituted with the likes of Canada, certain countries in Europe, China, and the list goes onward and downward.
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    Do you think that the Federal Government has Constitutional Authority to legislate firearms?

    It doesn't really matter what I think, they do whatever suits them.

    ANYTHING, out side of the prescribed law is an infringement.

    Paying for a background check is an infringement.
    Submitting a 4473 to a dealer in an infringement.
    Having a Firearms Owners I.S. is an infringement.
    Being allowed so many guns a month is an infringement.
    Going to a class so that I can defend myself is an infringement.
    Assuming that I am guilty of something is an infringement.
    Getting fingerprinted is an infringement.
    Waiting for my purchased property is an infringement.
    Only being able to own a gun that shoots so many shots is an infringement.
    Only being able to own a gun that doesn't have a pistol grip or a folding stock is an infringement.
    Not being allowed to own a certain class of gun because its dangerous is an infringement.
    Calling NICS to make sure I meet their standard before I purchase in an infringement.
    NFA, is an infringement.
    Not being allowed to own a device that makes a gun quieter without paying a tax is an infringement.
    Not being allowed to own a short barreled rifle or shotgun with paying same tax is an infringement.

    If you want to get technical about it...most of what the governement does that deals with firearms is an infringement.

    Yeah, I forgot about the Second Amendment for a moment. Just think of what I could list if I remembered it...
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    It doesn't matter anymore whether or not they have the Constitutional authority. Fact is, their guns are bigger and they have a lot more of them.
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    No, I do not think so.
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    NO. The government has overstepped their bounds on many items. It needs to be reduced by more than 50%.
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^What everyone else said!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    NO!
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    Until someone mounts a successful appeal of all the various federal gun laws that are on the books and the Supreme Court rules in their favor and declares them unconstitutional, I would say that the government has the authority. I may not agree with it, but there's a lot of stuff in government that I don't agree with. They still do it in spite of my objections though.

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    The government's authority is the point of a bayonet.

    They do what they want by force.

    Just because a right isn't mentioned in the Bill of Rights, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

    If the 2A didn't exist, our right to keep and bear arms still would.



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