Florida residents here it is...

Florida residents here it is...

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    Florida residents here it is...

    URGENT ALERT:
    ASK GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT TO SIGN SB 234!
    SB-234 NEEDS TO BE SIGNED


    DATE: June 8, 2011
    TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President


    Governor Rick Scott received SB 234 Concealed Weapons today.


    The bill Includes:

    ** Concealed Weapons & Firearms License Holders Open-Carry Protection
    ** Concealed Weapons & Firearms License Holders Guns-In-Vehicles Rights
    ** Purchase of Long Guns in other states

    Senate Bill 234 by state Senator Greg Evers (R-2) and Representative Chris Dorworth (R-34)makes much needed changes to the "Right-to-Carry" law -- also known as the Concealed Weapons Licensing law. It also makes changes to firearms purchase law to conform to federal law.

    The bill basically does three (3) following things:

    1. Provides protection for concealed weapons license holders to prevent license holders from being charged with the crime of violating the "Open Carry" law because a concealed firearm accidentally or inadvertently became visible.

    2. Provides that concealed weapons license holders may store a firearm in private vehicle anywhere the vehicle is lawfully parked except those places that are exempted under s. 790.251(7) -- the parking lot law.

    3. Removes the obsolete firearms purchase in contiguous state law previously required by federal law for out of state purchases of long guns and replaces it with language to conform to current federal requirements that allows purchase of long guns in other states.

    Please email Governor Scott right away and urge him to sign SB-234
    IN THE SUBJECT LINE PUT: Protect Gun Rights - PLEASE SIGN SB-234
    rick.scott@eog.myflorida.com
    PLEASE EMAIL GOVERNOR SCOTT TODAY
    BACKGROUND ON SB 234

    OPEN CARRY:
    # 1. The open carry provision addresses the problem of an accidental or unintentional exposure of a firearm being carried by a concealed weapons license holder. As silly as it may sound, if a license holder is carrying a concealed firearm and the wind blows a jacket or shirt open exposing the firearm, the person can be charged with a crime for violating the open carry law. Anytime a license holder accidentally or unintentionally exposes the firearm whether reaching for something on a top shelf or bending over to pick up something, he/she can be charged with a crime. This bill fixes that problem.

    The cries of anti-gunners with predictions of horrible things resulting from "open carry" are pure nonsense. Adding the provision of open carry for concealed weapons license holders will NOT present problems. While some gun haters may not want to remove this needless restriction, there have been no problems in other states.

    According to the anti-gun Brady Campaign, 46 states allow open carry. Of those, 34 states allow open carry without a permit or license while 12 states require a permit to carry openly. (FLORIDA TODAY 1/7/2011, Change Would Relax Handgun Law - Byline: Kaustuv Basu)

    What the spokesperson (Brian Malte, State Legislative Director) for the Brady Campaign -- the national gun ban group -- said is that open carry COULD BE TROUBLESOME. He said "Open carrying of loaded guns is problematic for public safety and for law enforcement. It is frightening to see people carrying loaded weapons in urban and suburban environments."

    What the Brady Campaign fails to report is that open carry is not now, nor has it ever been a problem. Only four states, including Florida, prohibit open carry. It's time to remove this unnecessary government restriction in Florida.

    Adding "open carry" for concealed weapons license holders to the law to avoid the "open carry" glitch doesn't mean they will carry openly.

    FIREARMS CARRY IN A VEHICLE:
    #2. This bill simply says that if a person has a concealed weapons license, nothing shall prohibit the carry or storage of a firearm in a vehicle -- except the exemptions in the Florida parking lot law.

    For example, many of you will remember the case last summer of a cemetery that arbitrarily banned guns on cemetery property.

    And you'll remember the distraught father, who had already buried his son (who had been killed in auto crash) in that cemetery. The father has a concealed weapons license and always carries a firearm in his truck and frequently visits his son's grave.

    Advised of the new gun ban by the cemetery, the father was given three choices: (1) stop carrying a firearm in his vehicle, (2) face arrest for trespassing with a firearm (a felony) or (3) move his son's body to another cemetery (which might later ban guns as well). Those choices are outrageous. This bill fixes that outrageous denial of Second Amendment rights.

    REPEAL OF CONTIGUOUS STATE LANGUAGE:
    #3. This bill repeals the obsolete language in s. 790.28, which limits purchase of rifles and shotguns to contiguous states and replaces it with language that will make it possible for Florida residents to purchase rifles and shotguns in non-contiguous states.
    In 1979, s. 790.28 was passed to conform to federal law. At the time, federal law required the contiguous state language to be passed in order for residents to be able to exercise their right to purchase long guns in adjoining states.

    Federal law has since changed to allow the purchase of long guns in any state through a licensed federal firearms dealer. However, in order for Florida residents to be able to exercise those rights, s. 790.28 must be repealed and conforming language must be added to Florida’s statutes. This bill does that.
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    While I'm glad that this law will soon be in place, not much impresses me, nor has anything changed for this 'legally armed Floridian'.OMOYMV
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    Good deal, glad you get the improvements in the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    While I'm glad that this law will soon be in place, not much impresses me, nor has anything changed for this 'legally armed Floridian'.OMOYMV
    I agree with you "retsupt" this bill has been watered down so badly from it's original form it is not much help, but it does take away arrest and prosecution for an inadvertant display.
    We have "lost" from it's original form...Open carry for CCW holders and the "Campus Carry" provision. The open carry went out the door when Pinellas County Sheriff Jim Coates did, in fact, tell legislators that if the concealed weapons license reform bill (SB 234 and HB 517) passed that law enforcement would be "drawing down" on license holders. YouTube - ‪FL Sheriffs Association - Officers will Draw Down on Lawful Open Carriers‬‏

    The fact that 43 states currently have open carry, in some form, either unpermitted or with a permit suggests that there is not a "problem" with open carry but rather a problem with this ONE PARTICULAR county Sheriff. If "his" Department can't handle what 43 other states can handle, perhaps it is time for a more qualified Sheriff...just my $.02
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