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This guy must be a duck......nothing else quacks like he does!
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Married 29 years. Have maybe a dozen drinks per year. Don't drink and drive. Don't drink and handle firearms. Maybe I blow the study, or maybe people like me were not in the population studied.
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This guy would really pitch a fit over FL law.
It's illegal to use a firearm when intoxicated, "use" being defined as being "in hand." But you can legally "carry" a firearm while smashed as long as you don't "use" it. Oh, and if you do "use" it in "self defense" while intoxicated, that's allowed by law.
But I wouldn't suggest it unless...
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But how many times a day are you setting???
If its ok to mix fireams and alcohol by the governments standards, then what the heck??
They even went so far as to group tobacco and explosives with the alcohol and firearms.
Hence the BATFE.
I think it was an agenda written article.
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I'm sipping a Samuel Adams while I'm reading this. Dang that guy's good!!
That "study" is semi-science. Not because it asks the pt population to self report- who happen to be heavy drinkers/alcoholics but any self reported clinical trials are far less scientifically rigorous unless there are one (or better, multiple control groups). It is an interesting question, but a poor method to gather the data. Just my unprofessional O.
If I wasn't so afraid of all those criminals out there that caused me to arm myself, maybe I could sleep at night without drinking!
But seriously, folks... here's the 'junk science' causality approach because a true linkage can't be established. Same as Rosie O'Fatgirl and spoons, pencils and misspelling, and damning by faint praise.
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I don't find the question interesting at all... what use is there in trying to find associations between gun ownership and anything? What if you could actually prove that owning guns causes alcoholism? Or that alcoholism causes people to own guns? What of it?
I would prefer to hear of a study determining if there is a link between marijuana use and unemployment or mental illness and liberalism (lol). That would be interesting.
The "study" lacks a tremendous amount of data. Basically everything a real study includes to justify the results. We don't know where the people were sampled from, we don't know how people were selected, and we don't know how people were excluded. The author of the "study" did say this was only about those who drink alcohol, so where was the line drawn? One drink, two drinks, or more? In what time frame does the minimum amount consumed matter?
The premise of the study was not clearly defined either. The author clearly has an agenda that he's trying to justify with his "studies" to move things forward.
Junk science is junk science. The worst thing is that some may buy into the skewed report and think it's valid.
People who own cars are also more likely to drink and drive...ban all cars.
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