Bill To Restrict Guns In Public goes to Delaware Gov. Markell

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    Bill To Restrict Guns In Public goes to Delaware Gov. Markell

    I was at my Mom's house tonight helping her to wash her windows, window blinds, curtains, etc. and she asked me if I'd heard about the new gun bill that is waiting for our Gov. to sign. I advised her that I had not heard anything about it.

    Apparently Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 29 passed the House Thursday night and was sent to the governor for his signature. This bill would prohibit the possession of a firearm while in a public place. I don't have any idea how they will enforce "public place", as soon as you walk out your front door you are in "public".

    First-time violators of this legislation would be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, subsequent offenses would be guilty of a Class G felony. The bill would not apply if the weapon were secured, disassembled or if the person was not in possession of ammunition.

    Our DSP Trooper's Association usually keeps a close watch on any gun legislation and informs both active and retired members should anything be introduced. I didn't see anything regarding this piece of crap, until tonight. Looks like Gov. Markell will have to go next election.
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    Was your Gov a former member of the KGB?
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    Yeah that'll work...
    especially if you are a middle eastern terrorist.
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    Sounds like your legislature has passed a bill banning guns everywhere except your private property. Surprising that they got that through without a ruckus being raised.
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    So basically your Concealed handgun permit is good as long as you are on your property or maybe even in your vehicle.What a load of crap
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    Found at Delaware Online:

    Bill to restrict guns in public goes to Markell
    A small piece of Gov. Jack Markell’s gun-control agenda, legislation that would prohibit the possession of a firearm while in a public place
    while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, passed the House Thursday night and was sent to the governor for his signature.

    First-time violators of Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 29, sponsored by Sen. Margaret Rose Henry, D-Wilmington East, would be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Subsequent offenses would be a Class G felony.

    The bill would not apply if the weapon were secured, disassembled or if the person was not in possession of ammunition.

    Context is pretty important with these stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhmAsylm View Post
    Found at Delaware Online:

    Bill to restrict guns in public goes to Markell
    A small piece of Gov. Jack Markell’s gun-control agenda, legislation that would prohibit the possession of a firearm while in a public place
    while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, passed the House Thursday night and was sent to the governor for his signature.

    First-time violators of Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 29, sponsored by Sen. Margaret Rose Henry, D-Wilmington East, would be guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Subsequent offenses would be a Class G felony.

    The bill would not apply if the weapon were secured, disassembled or if the person was not in possession of ammunition.

    Context is pretty important with these stories.
    Big difference when as Paul Harvey would have said “you have the rest of the story”.
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    That's quite a different take...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    A few words can make a whole lot of difference.




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    Here's the actual synopsis for the bill. Not only does violation of the law make it a Class A misdemeanor, it also is an automatic revocation of your CDW permit and you cannot apply for another permit for 5 years. While I'm not fond of most gun control legislation, this piece is one I could live with.

    This Bill makes it illegal for individuals to possess firearms outside of their homes while under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Persons found guilty under this section shall be guilty of a class A misdemeanor for a first offense, and will have their permit to carry a concealed deadly weapon, if available, revoked. In addition, such persons will not be permitted to obtain another CDW permit for 5 years from the date of conviction for a first offense. Persons convicted of a second or subsequent offense shall be guilty of a class G felony.
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    It's all about public safety but there should be a "loophole" for exigent circumstances. And it apparently makes no distinction between legal and illegal drugs. Someone on Vicodin for a tooth extraction, Percocet after a laparoscopic surgery, or hydromorphone for chronic pain relief would be just as guilty as your neighborhood crack addict.
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    I've got the article my mother gave me, last night, right in front of me and there is nothing mentioned about "while under the influence of drugs or alcohol"! At least this is better than what I suspected last night! I guess I can cancel the moving van!
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    It's all about public safety but there should be a "loophole" for exigent circumstances. And it apparently makes no distinction between legal and illegal drugs. Someone on Vicodin for a tooth extraction, Percocet after a laparoscopic surgery, or hydromorphone for chronic pain relief would be just as guilty as your neighborhood crack addict.
    Not to mention blood pressure or cholesterol medication. I think they will have just about covered every circumstance.
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    Well, at least my diabetic medication wouldn't show up on any tests as far as I know.

    Although, having used vicodin after surgery before, I would choose not to carry after taking it again. That stuff does some pretty amazing things. Most people are not thinking clearly after using that stuff. The one exception to someone using vicodin and not being affected much, if at all, is a co-worker who uses it at times to relieve the pain from his MS.

    Hopefully the bill will get rejected so a clause can be added for legally prescribed drugs. The legally prescribed part is what matters the most.

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