yeah. i will look for or start a new thread. i guess the 'shall not be infringed' is written, and unless changed should be what it is, however in my mind, seeing plaxico burress things all the time, and reading about the 14 hunters killed so far this season, etc., having some training prior to owning a firearm and checking if your are mentally stable/criminal etc. is not a bad thing. Not so sure if you don't have certification process when you have 200 million eligible population how you make sure those occur....but this is for another thread.