More illegal gun purchases by reporters

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappou68 View Post
    Amazing. I don't see why any law abiding citizen would oppose a background check. You need one for a CCW permit or license. Again, the moral majority are worried about individual rights. If it keeps BGs weapons purchases down, let them check all they want to. I also don't mind being scanned B4 a flight if it helps keep me safer in the air. Lets face it, the BGs don't care about laws or people's safety so why not really crack down on them. One word-@#$#$** lawyers that will defend anyone accused of anything for a buck. Enough already!
    I wish they would take the ccw as a pre clear for flying it is now faster to drive to orlando from miami than fly. How stupid! as for person to person transfers I want a ffl record if I buy because it proves I was not the possessor before the date of purchase so if the gun was ever used in a crime they dont come after me

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmilchman View Post
    Police grade pistols are built to a higher standard then criminal grade pistols, everyone knows that :)
    So, what you're saying is he didn't buy a HIPOINT?

    (BTW I happen to be a HIPOINT owner, and find them to be an adequate weapon.)
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    Sounded like an infomercial.
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    Police grade weapons are usually 9mm 38 special or 40 chosen as not to over penetrate and cause collateral incidence. bad guy guns are those which go thru houses and cars with impunity by the by in south florida you cant tell the good guys from the bad we have soooooo many bad cops the good ones are affraid

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    That article was so full of hyperbole and buzzwords, all designed to inflame more than inform.

    ...tactical assault rifle modified to use bullets for an AK-47, along with an easy-to-conceal pistol.
    What "assault rifle" wouldn't be tactical? I never heard of a strategic one.


    In fact, 34 people are murdered every day in gun violence, with many of the weapons traced back to private sales.
    There's that mythical 12000 "gun murders" a year. Not supported by any study or valid statistics (FBI, CDC) How many is "many of the weapons"? 20 a year? 1000 a year?

    To find out what kind of dangerous weapons we could buy,...
    I can go into Wal-Mart and buy dangerous baseball bats, axes, tire irons, not to mention cheesecakes (oh the cholesterol bombs!)

    Then there his whole train of thought of "buying guns online". No, he's finding a seller online, but buying face to face.

    What a crock of smelly stuff.
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    I like the count there are more killed with hammers and other non wepons

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    Police grade weapons are usually 9mm 38 special or 40 chosen as not to over penetrate and cause collateral incidence. bad guy guns are those which go thru houses and cars with impunity by the by in south florida you cant tell the good guys from the bad we have soooooo many bad cops the good ones are affraid
    Really?

    I did not know that.../Johnny Carson voice, off/

    The nine is a notorious over penetrator... Bad guy guns are the same as any other... and so are, ahem, "Police Grade." But once you put those hollow points in any gun, watch out! Those are designed for "maximum internal damage"... That's why I use only hollow point bbs... as dangerous as any other projectile out there... Maximum damage, I'm tellin' ya... wow!


    /sarcasm off/
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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    I wish they would take the ccw as a pre clear for flying it is now faster to drive to orlando from miami than fly. How stupid! as for person to person transfers I want a ffl record if I buy because it proves I was not the possessor before the date of purchase so if the gun was ever used in a crime they dont come after me
    Good point. You sure don't want to be the owner of record of a weapon used in a nasty crime B4 you even got it. Trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    Police grade weapons are usually 9mm 38 special or 40 chosen as not to over penetrate and cause collateral incidence. bad guy guns are those which go thru houses and cars with impunity by the by in south florida you cant tell the good guys from the bad we have soooooo many bad cops the good ones are affraid
    Ummmmmm...... Wha?
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    Originally Posted by swmft
    I wish they would take the ccw as a pre clear for flying it is now faster to drive to orlando from miami than fly. How stupid! as for person to person transfers I want a ffl record if I buy because it proves I was not the possessor before the date of purchase so if the gun was ever used in a crime they dont come after me
    I have no problem with you wanting that or even demanding that as a condition of sale when you buy or sell a weapon in a face to face transaction. Trouble comes when you attempt to force others to do the same thing.
    I recently bought something and as a condition of sale made the seller provide me with all maintenance records on the object. I would not however force others to do the same thing.

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    And they even bought evil hollowpoint ammo.Did you know those are designed to kill and maim? I mean really, unlike those harmeless other rounds? I wanna puke.
    I'd rather be lucky than good any day

    There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappou68 View Post
    Amazing. I don't see why any law abiding citizen would oppose a background check. You need one for a CCW permit or license. Again, the moral majority are worried about individual rights. If it keeps BGs weapons purchases down, let them check all they want to. I also don't mind being scanned B4 a flight if it helps keep me safer in the air. Lets face it, the BGs don't care about laws or people's safety so why not really crack down on them. One word-@#$#$** lawyers that will defend anyone accused of anything for a buck. Enough already!
    Because I should not need a permission slip to exercise a right.

    As you stated, BGs don't care about laws or people's safety. My rights are being infringed, but not the BGs ability to get a firearm illegally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swmft View Post
    Police grade weapons are usually 9mm 38 special or 40 chosen as not to over penetrate and cause collateral incidence. bad guy guns are those which go thru houses and cars with impunity by the by in south florida you cant tell the good guys from the bad we have soooooo many bad cops the good ones are affraid
    What?

    Please cite your source of your information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappou68 View Post
    Good point. You sure don't want to be the owner of record of a weapon used in a nasty crime B4 you even got it. Trouble.
    If you buy used it will ALWAYS have a history of some kind unless you test every gun you by for ballistics you dont know and if you use the gun in self defense with no chain of possession you will have a tuff time proving you did not pull whatever crime it was used in and they will ASS u ME you are guilty

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