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About LinkBacksI have seen Marines do some very careless and stupid things with weapons. Just like anybody else. The law is the law no matter who you are.
This is a discussion on Marine says NO! within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I have seen Marines do some very careless and stupid things with weapons. Just like anybody else. The law is the law no matter who ...
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I have seen Marines do some very careless and stupid things with weapons. Just like anybody else. The law is the law no matter who you are.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
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Doesn't the Empite State building have security screening like at the airport?Originally Posted by Sheldon J
"People who take an Internet handle of a great warrior, are usually the first to go fetal when crunch time comes." - Me
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Well one things for certain, if the good Lord ever decided to give this country an enema, He'd insert the syringe right there between NY and NJ.
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ALL CWP users should Boycott NEW YORK STATE PERIOD.
"It is better to remain silent and appear stupid, than to speak and remove all doubt."
"I fear the day when technology overlaps with our humanity, and the world will only have
a generation of misinformed idiots," Albert Einstein
While I feel for his plight, I also have a hard time feeling too much sympathy for him. He misunderstood the website he visited? Come on, he's an adult, he served in the military and he works in a trade where large sums of cash and jewelry changes hands on a frequent basis. If his reading comprehension is that bad, he needs to find another line of work.
In the stories that have been posted about this, I have yet to see what site he impossibly went to to check out NY laws.
Freedom doesn't come free. It is bought and paid for by the lives and blood of our men and women in uniform.
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I think they(NYC Prosecutors) are going to make an example of him.
Which will in turn, most likely make a martyr,{so to speak} of him in the public eye, which may turn the tide against the City, and Bloombutt.
If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.
Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to defeat the British, He shot them!
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." -- Ernest Benn
Maybe the way it panned out for Rosa Parks, another peaceful protester. And, in the spirit of civil disobedience, Ryan Jerome informed the authorities of his peaceful, illegal action. In our zeal to protect the public peace, let's not throw Jerome to the Bloomburgs of the world. Maybe there are enough people in New York fed up with their chains to rally around this cause?
Copped to a mere $1K and 10 days community service? I appreciate and admire his stand.
But this is a good example of someone that society should be able to trust with a gun whose training and discipline are exemplary - his carrying a gun illegally by some code none of us want notwithstanding.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
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I hope he embarrasses them into dropping the whole thing!
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You can educate ignorance, you can't fix stupid
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Bingo!!What everyone has to remember, is that as of now, it has been ruled by SCOTUS that states can apply "reasonable" restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms, and that they have not yet declared that we have a constitutional right to carry those arms concealed.
Justice Scalia said this in Heller:
Since Heller, SCOTUS has denied cert in two concealed carry cases including Williams v. MD."Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any ,
weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues ... The majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues."
The Supreme Court has denied cert in five carry cases in the last five months, though the Supremes are requesting responses from the government in each case, an unusual treatment in their process of elimination of cases to hear that indicates their keeping an ear to the ground on Second Amendment questions.
When the court requests responses from the government on the specifics of a question before them, it increases the liklihood of their hearing oral arguments by a factor of 9.5 (of an average of 8000 cases brought, only a few hundred garner a request for government response. And 8.6% of those the court hears).
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The more peaceful cases from which to choose the better. We each pick our personal battles. I'm not willing to turn my legal-eagle back on Jerome.The fact that the Supreme Court requested a response in all these cases does not mean the Court thinks the cases were decided correctly. It more likely suggests that the Court is interested in further clarifying the scope of Second Amendment rights after Heller and McDonald, but is searching for the right case vehicle to do it in.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
What cause? Non-residents carrying with an unrecognized out of state permit? How many states work off a permit system that does not honor ALL out of state permits or any permits?
This is not going to be the case that breaks the camels back.
It's not necessarily numbers or majority that decides a legal question. Most states can be wrong. Maybe it isn't a cause celebre. Maybe it is.
But the right to bear is a cause whether the Supreme Court hears Jerome or not.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
I would like to know what the "gunny" would say about this? (ie Did your parents have any children that lived? What is your major malfuntion........)
I am sorry to hear that he is going thru it.
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Make an example out of him? They offered him a deal (misdemeanor) which he turned down. From what I see in the news when that happens the DA will go after him with zeal. And really bad use of the word martyr. A martyr to me would be if he knowingly did this to bring persecution to himself to right or protest a wrong.
Being ignorant of the law does not make you a martyr especially when you are offered a plea.
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