Governor vetoes permitless conclealed carrry in SD

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    Angry Governor vetoes permitless conclealed carrry in SD

    I don't think the votes will be there for the legislature to override the veto, should they decide to even try.

    It wasn't the best permitless carry bill, since it required an SD driver's license (and only a DL would suffice) as proof of state residency. But it was a move in the right direction.

    Again, the reasoning he gives for vetoing is that LE would have difficulty verifying if a CCer was legit or not. How is that different from determining if a (no permit required) OCer is legit or not? Dumb reasoning.

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    Sounds like the law may have a few bugs. My hope is that as more and more of these laws are introduced in various states they will start passing. Did not make it through Colorado either.



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    Bummer.

    It passed 22-11 in the Senate and 50-18 in the House, so an override is a possibility.

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    That will show them law abidin citizens what fer....maybe they should implement some Chicago style laws to cut down on their gun violence. Plus now they can add a free speech tax without looking to hypocritical.
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    What do they do to verify criminals are not legally carrying? They could check to see if you had been arrested for anything that would prevent you from legally carrying a gun. Govenor needs to be replaced next election.
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    A $10 app fee, no training requirement, and shall issue within 30 days doesn't seem all that restrictive to me. Of course, I spend a fair amount of time in Maryland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram25 View Post
    Govenor needs to be replaced next election.
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    Elect a more 2A friendly Governor in the next election, put the pressure on.

    We had to get enough legislatures to over-ride the veto before we got CC passed... it took 8 yrs. of it coming up every year. A strong Republican state who kept electing Democrat Governors.
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    House failed to override the veto. That's it for this year.

    House fails to override gun bill veto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    Elect a more 2A friendly Governor in the next election, put the pressure on.

    We had to get enough legislatures to over-ride the veto before we got CC passed... it took 8 yrs. of it coming up every year. A strong Republican state who kept electing Democrat Governors.
    @ Eagleks: FYI-- the governor who vetoed the bill is not a Dem. Gun rights (and opposition to them) are not a partisan issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    @ Eagleks: FYI-- the governor who vetoed the bill is not a Dem. Gun rights (and opposition to them) are not a partisan issue.
    FYI ... I said "WE" .... real clearly. It doesn't matter if it's a Democrat, Republican or a RINO..... I referred to OUR situation.

    It was pertinent in our state that they were a Democrat, as they didn't want to sign anything done by a Republican controlled leglislature.

    Same point, get a Govenor elected that is more pro 2A..... or enough people in the legislature to override the veto. We couldn't get a good Gov in office, so we go 2/3 rds of the Legislature ..... before we got there.
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    How can anyone legitimately complain about no training requirements and a $10 fee, which probably doesn't even cover the cost of the card and background check?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    How can anyone legitimately complain about no training requirements and a $10 fee, which probably doesn't even cover the cost of the card and background check?
    I'm not complaining too much, since I'd get a permit so I could carry out of state anyway, but I'm disappointed this law didn't pass. I've never thought that the permit cost of $10 for 4 years was prohibitive though.

    FWIW, I believe the county sheriff's cut of the $10 permit cost is $2, which I'm sure doesn't even begin to cover the cost of the background check they do. And the "card" is plain white paper, printed in black ink on both sides, and laminated. It's not fancy, and there's not a photo on it, so the $8 that goes to the state probably covers that cost.

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