2nd Amendment Paper
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November 30th, 2006 08:35 PM
Also if there is any doubt as to how the Second Ammendment should be interpreted then one only need look at the original Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania State Constitution. It's spelled out quite clearly in the PA document of September 28, 1776.
XIII. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
November 30th, 2006 08:35 PM
November 30th, 2006 09:23 PM
Originally Posted by ExSoldier
Nice one. I'd like to propose a modified acronym:
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November 30th, 2006 09:50 PM
I started to read this paper and stopped. Nope. Not gonna do it. I spent several hours today grading A.P. research papers for my own students. I'm home, now and I leave work at WORK.
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November 30th, 2006 10:05 PM
I'm impressed with your reply...and you have 'educated' me...
Originally Posted by ExSoldier
You made good points, some of which I have not heard before...
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December 1st, 2006 04:13 AM
I know exactly how you guys feel. This could have easily been a 45 page paper. However, because of the limited space, I could not include graphs, photos, or anything else.
For those of you who don't know, I am attending a university that provides for an EXCELLENT education in "Security and International Intelligence." I also write for an intel newsletter that is distributed to quite a few intel agencies. My name is on the line with a paper like this and I can't afford to be seen as a political asset - either way. That is a huge reason my paper does not write to either direction. As much as I would love to write it towards our direction, I cannot. However the school I am at is extremely right, which should help me a little.
Sigguy229 - I finished the 2nd section realizing I wouldn't be able to write as much as I would want to. The Israeli angle, as extreme as it is, would have proven to be an incredible side to the paper. However... I had no space for it. Maybe for my masters degree... lol
QK - I REALLY wanted to include state consititutions - especially considering the datum I had collected based on states. It would have been a complete SLAM DUNK. However, like I said to Sig........ I had no space left. If I can do the Masters, you guys will be the first to know. If I can go for a Master's in Security, independent studies and personal experiences like the ones listed on this site will surely help me more than you all can imagine.
This site is the most invaluable resource for cold hard facts about an armed citizenry. Every one who posted before helped me sculpt this paper. I'm sure it will help me ace the course. I can't thank you all enough.
ExSoldier - I look forward to your opinion on this paper. Your editorials on this page contributed quite a bit (and the credit is due in the bibliography). Your experience as a Government teacher is, hopefully, just as helpful as you can imagine to anyone writing a paper - like myself.
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December 1st, 2006 11:27 AM
Probably not a popular position, but I would suggest you be careful about choosing the Second Amendment for your topic. You are trying to get a grade, remember? If your professor is hostile to the Second Amendment you may write the most wonderfully persuasive piece ever and still end up with a very bad grade. Is that what you want?
And if your professor is, in fact, hostile to the Second Amendment, I can assure you that you are NOT going to change his mind, no matter how persuasive your arguments might be. If that is why you have chosen this Amendment, I'm sorry to say it, but you are in for a very big disappointment.
Sometimes practicality needs to trump idealism. Just something to think about. Good luck.
Edited: Oops! Well, I just realized that you've already written the paper. Got into this a bit late, I guess.
December 1st, 2006 12:29 PM
Problems of the 2nd amendment nomenclature and their meaning as per the FF's:
well regulated: not controlled, but refers to being well equipped
militia: given in the justification clause (A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,...) referring to the people. The people are the militia and are to be the defense of the country. REMEMBER A STANDING ARMY IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Every couple years congress has to vote the military back in.
arms: weapons in every sense, from firearms to artillery to clubs, knives, bayonets, swords
shall not: don't do it
infringed: controlled, limiting of freedoms, violated.
Right now in America the three biggest problems of what we have to deal with is "shall not be infringed" and informing the asshats what "arms" really is. Arms isn't short for firearms, it is an all inclusive word referring to weapons and weaponry in general. We have lost sight of this.
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