Ammox Tax rider in healthcare bill?

Ammox Tax rider in healthcare bill?

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    Ammox Tax rider in healthcare bill?

    I was told today that the pending healthcare bill has some sort of crazy ammo tax rider bill attached to it. Any truth to this? I haven't researched any credible sources yet. The only thing that I remember is that the EPA had tried something like this awhile back, and it didn't work out.

    Interesting given the recent huge ammo purchase by DHS. ....Or maybe DHS is just hedging against future inflation?

    Thoughts?
    If you're going to carry one weapon, might as well carry two, because as the saying goes, "Two is one, and one is none."

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    Someone gave you the wrong scoop.

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    I don't believe so, I have heard this many times, and each time this rummer seems to be debunked. However, I make no promises about what is truly in that monstrosity.
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    With obamacare being 2700 pages there is no telling what is buried in it.
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    I agree with a former poster...a scoop of poop...
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    Thanks for the input. This seems to be the case, as I couldn't locate any articles on it. Yet again, I guess we shall see.
    If you're going to carry one weapon, might as well carry two, because as the saying goes, "Two is one, and one is none."

    "Liberals can decline or whine, but I will still carry and conceal mine." - Cold Warrior. Excellent quote good sir!

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    they talked about an ammo tax, and the Republicans threatened a fillabuster if they tried it.... and the subject faded away.
    But then there is always some idiot up there who will propose about anything .... but doesn't mean it will ever get passed.
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    It's always possible to actually read the bill, rather than go on what some internet commando tries to propagate.

    In fact, and I'm surprised I can say something positive about Obamacare, it has prohibitions about the collection of information related to ownership of firearms or ammunition.

    PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
    ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
    and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
    (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
    information relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
    firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
    of an individual; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
    or ammunition by an individual.

    ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
    authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
    and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
    Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
    collection of any information relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
    or ammunition;
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
    ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

    ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
    the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
    Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
    by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
    to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
    a firearm or ammunition.
    ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
    ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
    be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,

    and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
    a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
    any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
    with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
    amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
    upon—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
    or ammunition; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.

    ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
    INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
    information
    under any data collection activity authorized under
    the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
    made by that Act relating to—
    ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
    or ammunition; or
    ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
    or ammunition.’’.
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    I don't think anyone yet has read the whole thing. I just found out that it gives the president the power to create his own private army independent of congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunthorp View Post
    I don't think anyone yet has read the whole thing. I just found out that it gives the president the power to create his own private army independent of congress.
    Really? Where? Please point out the section of the bill.
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