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President Obama & Gun Legistlation

This is a discussion on President Obama & Gun Legistlation within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by tiwee Obama's Supreme Court appointments. We are one appointment away from losing the 5 - 4 for 2A court. When the Supreme ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiwee View Post
    Obama's Supreme Court appointments. We are one appointment away from losing the 5 - 4 for 2A court.
    When the Supreme Court ruled on the 2nd amendment President Obama said " I will fix that mistake when I appoint one more justice to the court."
    try to cover it up best you can he made it clear.
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    A man in known by the company that he keeps.

    A President does not have to be publicly known as "anti" anything.

    He can simply appoint Czars, without Constitutional oversight, he can appoint a multitude of other important positions and in doing so can basically change policy to meet his personal beliefs and it can last for generations.

    Its one of the greatest secrets of the Presidency, but ridiculously few people are smart enough to figure it out.

    The President doesn't have to "do" anything. It the people that work for him that "do" the doing.

    Just as there is no Admiral or General that can win a war by himself, it is an effort by many that achieves the final outcome and it goes from the top man all the way to the lowest paid troop with the least amount of responsibility. It takes ALL of them to win.

    With that being said, Obama has appointed many with no business experience, tax evaders, sworn socialists, known activists that hate everything that this country stands for and we are beginning to see the effects of it, but we haven't seen anything yet. When he gets reelected, all of those scumbags that he calls friends will pull out all stops to destroy this country from within. Fact of the matter is, most people are too busy or stupid to see it coming.

    Blaming the increased sales of guns on the NRA, or the gun industry or anything else, is to put ones head in the sand and ignore the obvious, but hey, we are used to it. That same type of mentality is the one that put Obama in the top spot and it aint over yet.
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    Obama is no threat to 2nd amendment. It is my observation that the greatest growth in new gun owners is among progessives who are not going to leave self defense to the conservatives.
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    Seems to me that we are obsessed with President Obama when the threat comes from both sides of the political spectrum.
    In short Mitt Romney signed the same legislation we are afraid that Obama supports. Gun owners have no friends and it does not help when the NRA does not hold them accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    It's the law of supply and demand. Demand is high for several reasons.

    2. Mayan calendar ends, ie preppers

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    Quote Originally Posted by onacoma View Post
    A +1, but we've forgotten his most important appointment, Eric Holder. Mr Holder is our country chief law enforcement officer! So before you even get to the supreme count you must go through him.

    Some may not remember, but Mr. Holder and the appointed BATF officals set up Fast & Furious to show Americans we need stronger laws to prevent guns going to Mexico.

    Another example, the people in OZ said the same thing right before they took their guns.
    You do realize that the gun walking program started under Bush, right? It just went bad under Obama.

    Obama is not going to do anything to our guns. He has expanded gun rights far more than Ronald "I hate freedom and the 2nd Amendment" Reagan who was anti-gun to the core. Obama has also signed the most pro-gun legislation in years with the national parks carry. The NRA is a bunch of liars and hypochondriacs. It is shameful how they are using the Obama election or money an to solicit donations.
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    *Sigh* So tired of hearing about all this SCOTUS nominee rhetoric. Take an objective, rational look at the current makeup of the Court, and you'll see that far and away, the most likely retirees during a potential second term are justices already considered to be on the liberal side of the spectrum. Justices historically look to retire under the term of an ideologically like-minded president, and/or when they feel like they no longer bring the type of utility/value to the Court that they once did.

    In other words, dispassionately and objectively taking the above into account, barring a sad unexpected passing or retirement a second Obama term will likely mean little more than maintaining the status quo on the Court in terms of "leanings" - i.e. a 4-justice "liberal" wing, a 4-justice "conservative" wing, and Justice Kennedy (a Reagan appointee) acting as the proverbial swing vote.

    To be sure, there are a lot of reasons why someone would not want to vote for Obama, and I won't get into that here. But the SCOTUS-going-liberal-and-destroying-us thing is just wildly overblown.
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    The easiest answer is Obama is for anything that destroys America & his actions show he really wants to be a dictator. He doesn't even respect Scotus so it is a mute argument.

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    Are you people insane? Obozo's from Illinois, specifically Chicago, the most anti-gun spot on the planet. If he gets a second term the 2A is toast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb327 View Post
    Within the gun owner community there is a general feeling and assumption that President Obama is anti second amendment and is out to get our guns. I can remember during the last election how hard it was to get ammo and firearms. When I asked gun shops why, their reply was "silly Obama!"

    During President Obama's first term I don't know of any anti gun legislation the he signed or endorsed. In 2010 President Obama signed Legislation that would allow carry in National Parks.

    I agree that President Obama may not be the most gun friendly President. But who is actually driving gun and ammo sales? The NRA, Republican talking heads, or is it our fears about what President Obama might do in his second term?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgyver210 View Post
    The easiest answer is Obama is for anything that destroys America & his actions show he really wants to be a dictator. He doesn't even respect Scotus so it is a mute argument.
    Please explain. What are you talking about?

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    The most interesting thing about discussions like this is how it exposes those who live in fear and see 'shadows behind every tree'. Those who imaginations run wild with conspiracy. Often with liberty and freedom comes an irrational fear of losing it and their fears cause them to lose freedoms in there own minds. The media knows who these people are and feeds them what they want to hear.
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    What some may call suffering from irrational fears others call History.
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