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President Obama & Gun Legistlation

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Within the gun owner community there is a general feeling and assumption that President Obama is anti second amendment and is out to get our guns. I can remember during the last election how hard it was to get ammo and firearms. When I asked gun shops why, their reply was "silly Obama!"

During President Obama's first term I don't know of any anti gun legislation the he signed or endorsed. In 2010 President Obama signed Legislation that would allow carry in National Parks.

I agree that President Obama may not be the most gun friendly President. But who is actually driving gun and ammo sales? The NRA, Republican talking heads, or is it our fears about what President Obama might do in his second term?

Thoughts?
 
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I doubt a second term 0bama could get much legislation through to hurt 2A gains over the last few years, especially since most of those gains have been made at the state level...

But one more 0bama appointee to SCOTUS and we could be hosed for years...
 
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I hear mixed things on this topic. Some people think he is waiting until his second term (if he has one), so that he won't have to worry about ticking the voters off. Others think he isn't as anti-2A as people say.
 
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I think Tiwee has it figured out. I'm not so afraid of Owebama as I am about the radicals he puts in powerful positions such as Eric Holder, Sonia Sotomayor or Van Jones that can screw up the 2A forever. That's why I keep saying that in the 2012 election we're not voting for a President as much as we are voting for a Supreme Court Justice.
 
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#7 ·
It's the law of supply and demand. Demand is high for several reasons.
1. Election year
2. Mayan calendar ends, ie preppers
3. Iran working on nukes
4. N Korea working on nukes
5. Europe about to financial collapse

But I have faith in my lord and savior.



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It's the law of supply and demand. Demand is high for several reasons.

2. Mayan calendar ends, ie preppers

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Little side note; the Mayan calendar does not take into account Leap Years;the Mayan calendar dates from 1050, there have been 240 leap years since then, so go forward 240 days from today....We are already past the end of the Mayan calendar.
 
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During Obama's first term I don't know of any anti gun legislation the he signed or endorsed. In 2010 Obama signed Legislation that would allow carry in National Parks.
The only reason he signed it was because it was attached to the credit card bill HE demanded it was not by HIS choice.
 
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If a Scotus appointment doesn't doesn't remove our rights then an Exective act by Potus will. He doesn't seem to mind he thinks he knows what's best for America. If we fail to get out the current Potus then I'm humbled concerning the future of the second amendment.....the whole constitution. Once gains are made removing our rights, state laws will will yield to the Feds.
 
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If a Scotus appointment doesn't doesn't remove our rights then an Exective act by Potus will.
I wish he would, then we would have a open declaration of war against the people. Then there would be no doubt for anyone.
 
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I never cease to be amazed when I passively query the "professed Obama voter" why. Their answers are varied but usually no one is able to provide a single positive example, other than regurgitating hackneyed (D) talking points ie: he got Bin Laden, he saved the economy (BWAAAAHAHAHA), he's looking out for the common man, etc. etc., Or their answer is a regurgitation of the negative talking points from our so-called leader: Romney only cares about the wealthy, (R)'s are responsible for wars, the recession, the price of gas, the housing market, etc.etc. The majority of our electorate is uninformed, unaware, and completely susceptible to the state run propaganda machine (the media). Obama is not the danger. Those citizens are the danger. We will recover from the Obama fiasco. We may never recover from the people that put him there.
 
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The reason for the shortage...
The NRA and anyone else who can profit in the gun and ammo industry are doing so by creating fear from propaganda. Nothing boosts sales like fear and they know it. It's all money driven hype from those within the industry. Obama has done nothing to create these fears but don't they love to point the finger of blame at him. Misdirection at it's finest. They will try to keep the fear going for as long as they can.
 
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A man in known by the company that he keeps.

A President does not have to be publicly known as "anti" anything.

He can simply appoint Czars, without Constitutional oversight, he can appoint a multitude of other important positions and in doing so can basically change policy to meet his personal beliefs and it can last for generations.

Its one of the greatest secrets of the Presidency, but ridiculously few people are smart enough to figure it out.

The President doesn't have to "do" anything. It the people that work for him that "do" the doing.

Just as there is no Admiral or General that can win a war by himself, it is an effort by many that achieves the final outcome and it goes from the top man all the way to the lowest paid troop with the least amount of responsibility. It takes ALL of them to win.

With that being said, Obama has appointed many with no business experience, tax evaders, sworn socialists, known activists that hate everything that this country stands for and we are beginning to see the effects of it, but we haven't seen anything yet. When he gets reelected, all of those scumbags that he calls friends will pull out all stops to destroy this country from within. Fact of the matter is, most people are too busy or stupid to see it coming.

Blaming the increased sales of guns on the NRA, or the gun industry or anything else, is to put ones head in the sand and ignore the obvious, but hey, we are used to it. That same type of mentality is the one that put Obama in the top spot and it aint over yet.
 
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*Sigh* So tired of hearing about all this SCOTUS nominee rhetoric. Take an objective, rational look at the current makeup of the Court, and you'll see that far and away, the most likely retirees during a potential second term are justices already considered to be on the liberal side of the spectrum. Justices historically look to retire under the term of an ideologically like-minded president, and/or when they feel like they no longer bring the type of utility/value to the Court that they once did.

In other words, dispassionately and objectively taking the above into account, barring a sad unexpected passing or retirement a second Obama term will likely mean little more than maintaining the status quo on the Court in terms of "leanings" - i.e. a 4-justice "liberal" wing, a 4-justice "conservative" wing, and Justice Kennedy (a Reagan appointee) acting as the proverbial swing vote.

To be sure, there are a lot of reasons why someone would not want to vote for Obama, and I won't get into that here. But the SCOTUS-going-liberal-and-destroying-us thing is just wildly overblown.
 
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*Sigh* So tired of hearing about all this SCOTUS nominee rhetoric. Take an objective, rational look at the current makeup of the Court, and you'll see that far and away, the most likely retirees during a potential second term are justices already considered to be on the liberal side of the spectrum. Justices historically look to retire under the term of an ideologically like-minded president, and/or when they feel like they no longer bring the type of utility/value to the Court that they once did.

In other words, dispassionately and objectively taking the above into account, barring a sad unexpected passing or retirement a second Obama term will likely mean little more than maintaining the status quo on the Court in terms of "leanings" - i.e. a 4-justice "liberal" wing, a 4-justice "conservative" wing, and Justice Kennedy (a Reagan appointee) acting as the proverbial swing vote.

To be sure, there are a lot of reasons why someone would not want to vote for Obama, and I won't get into that here. But the SCOTUS-going-liberal-and-destroying-us thing is just wildly overblown.
SO SO SO short sighted, do you leave milk out of the refrigerator because it will probably still be good tomorrow??????

Yes an old liberal dinosaur retires under Obummer, to be replaced by a young liberal who will sit on the court for 20-30 or more years, and somewhere in the not too distant future the liberals get a solid 5-4 majority, then what?????

Let's put a (sudo) conservative in the White House and start tipping the balance our way NOW!!!! The battle will go in-defiantly, they can loose every battle now and keep fighting, we can only loose once and we are done.....NEVER GIVE AN INCH!!!!
 
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#25 ·
The easiest answer is Obama is for anything that destroys America & his actions show he really wants to be a dictator. He doesn't even respect Scotus so it is a mute argument.
 
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The most interesting thing about discussions like this is how it exposes those who live in fear and see 'shadows behind every tree'. Those who imaginations run wild with conspiracy. Often with liberty and freedom comes an irrational fear of losing it and their fears cause them to lose freedoms in there own minds. The media knows who these people are and feeds them what they want to hear.
 
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There is a "whole" list of things he's done, but I'm tired of posting for people who haven't been paying attention. You can start with various gun imports stopped, the attempt to eliminate lead bullets, the ATF regulations, etc they've tried to do,.... it's a long list.
 
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All I know is he appointed two established anti-gunners to the Supreme Court during his first term, which will be making decisions long after he's out of office.
 
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