Question About NRA and Wayne LaPierre
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April 15th, 2012 06:56 PM
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Question About NRA and Wayne LaPierre
I'm wondering, even some NRA members think Wayne L is a fear monger and that the NRA is way too pushy on allowing no restrictions. How can you be an NRA member and not like him? how can you be pro gun but think some weapons like AR-15 or AK-47 should be illegal? they are after all just a rifle right? I ask this because I seriously want to know. Not trolling. I've only been into guns for about a year or so now. Thanks
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April 15th, 2012 06:56 PM
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April 15th, 2012 07:02 PM
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I did not renew my membership because he is a fear monger. His crap and divisive rhetoric about he POTUS is why.
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April 15th, 2012 07:08 PM
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He is a fear monger. No doubt about it. I can list many examples of his 'newsletter' that reaches new heights of hyperbole and inaccuracies. But they have been addressed in other threads. I am not talking about thinking some guns should be banned. I think most that do not like him don't want assualt weapons banned either. Reading what he puts out has as much pro gun spin on it as possible and using 'certain' stats to support gun rights. That is all well and good except when he omits stats that conflict with his views and NRA goals. All groups do that like the Brady bunch on the other side. So what you get is intellectual dishonesty on both sides. Just like right vs left and dem vs rep. You don't get the whole picture from one side, you have to do your own research to see the totality of the facts.
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April 15th, 2012 09:04 PM
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I would rather have a pushy guy representing my interests than a pushover. Not saying everything he and the NRA put out is perfect or PC (which I think is a good thing), but without the NRA our rights for guns and self-defense would be in a completely different place.
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April 15th, 2012 09:12 PM
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The NRA has played a big part in keeping the second amendment alive. There has not been another organization that has fought as hard and as long as the NRA for gun rights.
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April 15th, 2012 09:19 PM
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I'm still a Life Member and will continue on behind the NRA.
Do they do everything correctly (according to my thinking)? No!
But they do keep the 2A torch alive.OMO
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April 15th, 2012 09:30 PM
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So what don't NRA members like about them?
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April 15th, 2012 09:35 PM
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They're not perfect, but they're the best we've got.
Ideally, I'd like a straight presentation of the facts. Spin is for the losers.
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April 15th, 2012 09:38 PM
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I think he is a fear monger; he uses propaganda to raise $ for the NRA. However, that $ is used to defend our 2A rights. No doubt, the NRA is the most influential, most powerful pro 2A organization out there. They have my support, even though I do not agree with everything they do.
"Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent" -Thomas Paine
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April 15th, 2012 09:40 PM
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I don't like Wayne because I don't like spin. I think that stretching the truth the way he does damages our credibility.
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April 15th, 2012 10:31 PM
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His rhetoric drives weapon and ammo sales to new records. That's probably why every gun I've bought in the last three or four years came with an NRA membership application.
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April 15th, 2012 10:54 PM
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I'm all for defending the 2nd amendment but not in the manner the NRA does. Like Suntzu wrote, I think that LaPierre can be as intellectually dishonest as the Brady Campaign and their ilk.
The NRA offends me on an intellectual level. I'm too intelligent to buy into the NRA's bs, and I don't care how arrogant that sounds. The NRA lies and inpsires fear and the gun companies who profit from the NRA can pay the bill, I'm not donating a single dollar.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
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April 15th, 2012 10:55 PM
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Hype no doubt but with a purpose for himself and the NRA. Along the same lines as the Dems & Reps do.
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April 15th, 2012 11:20 PM
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April 15th, 2012 11:29 PM
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The hyperbole and 'spin' on the pro-gun side is lamentable, but let me ask this: What if the hyperbole and spin of the Brady Bunch and friends were left unmatched?
Sad to say, our politics have been dumbed down to sound bites and the intellectual level of American Idol. Forget Voter ID laws; I'd happily trade for Voter Intelligence laws with a comprehension test based on a 100-word essay on American history which could be read out loud in a voter's native language, as long as the answers were given in decipherable English. Just show me some evidence of critical thinking, and you get to proceed to the voting booth. Note I didn't say a "history test;" simply read a brief passage on American history and respond to a few questions that show evidence of brain function appropriate to the age of majority in our nation.
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