And Holder dancing in the street doing his version of MC Hammer singing Can't touch this.
You mean hide incriminating evidence. It's all how you look at it. Justice department just said they won't prosecute Holder. What a joke this administration is.
received evidence as presented in the Eban story, why would you assert that there is incriminating evidence
Look, just like when you have an encounter with LE, the more you talk the more stuff can get twisted.
It works the same way with EP. The more given over, the more things get spun.
You can't infer criminality from the use of EP just as you can't infer criminality from
someone refusing to talk with the police and taking the 5th.
Both are well established privileges. Go back to post 273 and read what is at the link. See how it worked
during the Reagan administration.
1) Congress is suing in civil court (good people will not sit by and do nothing).
2) Hopyard wants to talk about EP (and the Administration wants to hide behind it).
3) The IG report is due most probably within a few weeks (so I read somewhere on the internet).
At least one of my Dem senators have been "looking forward" to the IG report to reevaluate ATF, and possibly Mr. Holder's fate to continue in his post. They can expect a tickler from me when the report comes. I'll let you all know their answer.
Senator Diane Feinstein actually addresses the issue I write about like this response from May, 2011 (recall the mantra of "not enough resources to enforce our gun laws" just before F&F exploded)
However Senator Barbara Boxer's responses are usually the following form letter:Quote:
With its responsibility to enforce federal firearms laws, ATF has the important task of stopping the illegal use and trafficking of firearms. I believe Congress should provide ATF with the resources and tools it needs so that the federal government can keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
I am aware that, recently, there have been criticisms of "Project Gunrunner," an ATF initiative to investigate and stop the trafficking of firearms across the border to Mexico. According to media reports, ATF agents have alleged that as part of the initiative's "Operation Fast and Furious," ATF knowingly let firearms be trafficked across the border as part of its investigation. Two guns related to "Operation Fast and Furious" were also found at the scene of the December 14, 2010, murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, but ATF has stated that neither of the guns were the murder weapon.
Please know that Attorney General Eric Holder has asked the Inspector General of the Department of Justice to review the situation; the Inspector General is responsible for conducting internal and independent investigations of the Department to ensure its employees and programs abide by the law and act in the best interest of the Nation. I look forward to reviewing the Inspector General's report to see what, if any, recommendations are made with regard to ATF's policies and procedures.
Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me. Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability. Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.
... (more boilerplate babble)
Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate hearing from you.
[QUOTE=Hopyard;2303308]Part in bold is very much in dispute.
Nevertheless, I just want to stick with EP, because our other discussions enter partisan politics, or
are dependent on information either in dispute or not on the table.[/QUO
Wouldn't be in dispute if they would stop hiding behind EP. Show they did nothing illegal. Answer the American peoples demands. They work for us least they have forgotten.
just tell him the truth. You'll be fine. You can just tell him how your gun was left in a toilet and you didn't notice;
they won't blame the robbery on you. See. It works the same way with EP. And there is the other aspect,
which is that some things are not part of COngress' business. Its called Separation of Powers.
2) Tell the last part to your nice police officer too. "You work for me." See where that gets you.
:blink: :blink: :blink: I know my eye's are going nuts.. I could swear people are talking to themselves :blink: :blink:
Grassley, Issa move to protect F&F whistleblowers
Senator Charles Grassley and Congressman Darrel Issa are moving to protect two Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives whistleblowers in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal after learning they have been placed under the supervision of a man who “vowed to retaliate against them.”
Grassley, Issa move to protect F&F whistleblowers - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com