House to vote on Trayvon Amendment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagleks View Post
    I think it would be found unconstitutional if it ever passed....... "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness" , and the 2nd amendment rights...........

    So... only the BG can show up with a gun ? Seems that's where we were before, and it didn't work out too well.
    Your assumption may or may not be true - depending on who gets to appoint the next few justices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksholder View Post
    Your assumption may or may not be true - depending on who gets to appoint the next few justices.
    This reminded me of the old curse: "May you live in interesting times". These times, sure are interesting.

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    I can hardly wait until November to see if the majority of this country has "wised up" and put this Country back on the RIGHT Constitutional path.
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    "In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted..."

    Shouldn't that be looked at as a positive? To me, it shows the right to self defense is working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    "In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted..."

    Shouldn't that be looked at as a positive? To me, it shows the right to self defense is working.
    too bad that "factoid" isn't true. when facts don't cut it the left just lies to make it's point

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    "In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted..."

    Shouldn't that be looked at as a positive? To me, it shows the right to self defense is working.
    too bad that "factoid" isn't true. when facts don't cut it the left just lies to make it's point

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    "In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted..."

    I agree with OldVet. They say that like it's a bad thing.

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    Ya know... It's true. Justifiable homicide has increased in FL. While homicide in general (including both criminal and justifiable homicides) is going down.

    What does that mean?

    To me it means:
    1. In the cases of justifiable homicide, there was a "choice" between one dead body or the other... either the criminal is dead, or the law abiding citizen is dead. The law abiding citizen prevailed and the criminal is dead. That is the better outcome.

    2. The criminal class is now aware that the law abiding citizen may be armed... so there is less violent crime perpetrated. The armed thug faces the risk/threat of equalizing force, something most of them are averse to... they want easy targets overwhelmed by their superior firepower... not a fair fight.


    Stand Your Ground Law works... It deters crime, and it saves taxpayers the expense of incarcerating violent criminals who would eventually be released to commit yet more crime. In addition to those benefits, it allows the law abiding citizen to defend himself in situations and areas where he may not familiar with the "lay of the land" and my not be aware of (and use) routes of retreat (required in most states without SYG laws).
    It could be worse.
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    The proposed amendment was withdrawn:

    Democrats withdraw Trayvon amendment - Washington Times

    Rep. Keith Ellison, Minnesota Democrat, said he will still try to force a debate at a more "appropriate" time in the future, saying action is demanded by the case of Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager who police said was shot dead in a street encounter with a neighborhood watch volunteer

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    Yah, bring it up "at a more appropriate time"---which is NEVER!!!! What a maroon! These idiots are just trying to get headlines for themselves. They can't really be that stupid to believe the stuff they are saying. Or can they! One would think that a congressman should have a certain basic intelligence level. But then again, so many of them act in a manner contrary to common sense and a display of intelligence that it makes one wonder!
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    Appropriate time is defined as the when they have the votes to get the amendment passed. We'll see this again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig 210 View Post
    The proposed amendment was withdrawn:

    Democrats withdraw Trayvon amendment - Washington Times
    Looks like contacting my House Representative did some good. to all who did so. Now let's not forget the voting "power" we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigamortis View Post
    The two dems backing this bill are from states that have nothing to do with Florida. They should keep their noses out of Florida's business and let Florida's representatives do something about SYG if a majority of Floridians want something changed. That's what representing the people is all about.
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    Talk about stepping on State's rights!

    ^^^^This is what^^^^^^^^

    our Federal Government is all about, & has become in the last 60 years or so.
    Control.
    I've said for the longest time, the states who collect gasoline taxes, and other monies to be collected at the decree of the feds, and then only get back way less than $1.00 for every $1.00 they send to Disneyland on the Potomac, should just NOT SEND THE MONEY THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    This country has become a land of "Elitists" who feel they know better than their constituents, and are going to do as they damn well please, or how some major money benefactor wishes for them vote.
    I for one think its gone on for too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit51 View Post
    I can hardly wait until November to see if the majority of this country has "wised up" and put this Country back on the RIGHT Constitutional path.
    The only way that will happen is if we vote all of the abusers of the Constitution out of office, both Democrats and Republicans. Face both sides have been abusing Our cherished document!
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    We need to push a bill to withhold paycheck from stupid congressmen.
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