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    House to vote on Trayvon Amendment

    From the Washington Times May 8, 2012:

    House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.

    The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.

    "'Shoot-first' laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldn't be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people," said Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation. "This is no different than withholding transportation funds from states that don't enforce seat-belt laws."

    Florida's law, which allows residents to use force in response to an attack without first having to retreat, has come under scrutiny after the nationally-polarizing death of teenager Trayvon Martin. George Zimmermann, a neighborhood watch volunteer, has been charged with murder in the case.
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    Good thing there aren't enough Democrats in the House to do anything about it. Wheeew.
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    Glad I checked before I posted again on this same article.

    I am posting this as 'Politically Neutral'.

    What does one party have against personal liberties excercised by law abiding citizens? Not enough control over them I guess. This should bother you, no matter what side of the political isle you may be on.

    It's easy for the media to hide the fact that violent crime and murders tend to trend within one's ethnic group, and that minorities seem to have a much higher rate of such crime. When it becomes interacial, it is often too hard for the media to hide.

    What is one political party trying to do here, kill more minorities (by having them kill themselves) by outlawing the right of individuals to defend themselves? That is the basic outcome of such legislation.

    I am very glad they are pushing this nonsense, to gain base voting points. This will only further ignite the fire for citizens who understand the 2A to get out and vote this year.
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    The two dems backing this bill are from states that have nothing to do with Florida. They should keep their noses out of Florida's business and let Florida's representatives do something about SYG if a majority of Floridians want something changed. That's what representing the people is all about.

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    Talk about stepping on State's rights!
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    Ya had to see this one coming from miles away.

    Lets see, 2 Losers sponsoring the bill:
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    This is a go nowhere bill from a couple of blowhard socialists, it will go nowhere. However it should remind everyone the fight for personal liberties is never ending.
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    Dumb dumb stupid move. Downright idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooterX View Post
    Talk about stepping on State's rights!
    I do hope the inevitable backlash to a swollen and ineffective federal government in the resumption of states rights. The answer to so many problems. Unless you're a remora.

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    I think the problem is going to be they are piggy-backing it on spending bill so it has a better chance to go through w/o as much attention being paid to it.

    Nice that our legislators are jumping to the conclusions that:
    1) Zimmerman is guilty,
    2) The lives lost in self defense shootings were of upstanding citizens, and
    3) The lives preserved in self defense shootings were of dirtbags.

    Isn't there a presumption that if someone gets shot in a self defense shooting, they deserved it.

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    "'Shoot-first' laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted
    I seriously doubt deaths have tripled but when people are allowed to defend themselves it follows that perpetrators of crime and violence are at risk and no longer able to victimize people with impunity. It sounds as if some House Democrats are going to push a bill that is simply pro crime, pro criminal. Pathetic.

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    More meddling by someone that just wants to make a name for themselves.

    Never mind the facts or the ramifications of a poor bill that gets passed because of knee jerk reaction.

    What we really need is a bill that outlaws stupid Congressmen from passing stupid laws.
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    This is so sad that we are becoming so socialist in our government that they are getting away with squashing our rights one by one

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    The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.
    The Feds have used the purse to force States to pass laws in the past. If our State Governments had a pair they would immediately stop sending any tax monies back to D.C.. They should refuse to cooperate with Federal agencies until the attempted blackmail has ceased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattmann View Post
    This is so sad that we are becoming so socialist in our government that they are getting away with squashing our rights one by one

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    Well someone is electing these jokers.
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