This is a discussion on Positive Aritcle on Ohio Carry in Bar Law within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by noway2 I think you "got" my intentions. In case it wasn't so clear for everyone, my statement was meant as humor to ...
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
If a bunch of left handed, gay, hippy, communists, with rainbow hair, and funny mustaches want to support gun rights, the members of this forum should support that, even if it is contrary to other personal views. Similarly, if we, as a collective, engage in putting others down, and call them names, how can we ever expect them to respect or support our positions?
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I feel the need to reply to a couple of different posts. First, my opinion, from talking to several police officers in the past and from comments made by other police officers in the media, is that the majority of the rank and file police have no objection to law abiding citizens with Concealed Handgun Licenses. (We have CHLs in Ohio). It is some of the "leadership" and "politicians" that are the ones who opposed the change in Ohio's law allowing guns in restaurants that serve alcohol. By the nature of Ohio's liquor laws, there was no distinction between "bars" and "restaurants". The media, naturally, made a big deal out of "packing heat in bars" because it was much more sensational that saying the law would allow Ohioians with a CHL to go to their favorite restaurant, that happened to have a liquor license and served alcohol with meals, without having to disarm and lock their guns in their cars before going in to eat--even if they were not going to drink.
Second, yah, I've bashed "liberals" numerous times in my posts! I use to be one when I was in college and in grad school. It is the nature of our education system. I got more and more "conservative" as I experienced the "real world" instead of the idealistic ivory tower world of academia and the atmosphere of a college town. I am now 70, and a lot more conservative than I use to be. I have an ex-wife who still lives in a college town, was a social worker all her working career after college, and is still a flaming liberal! We are on cordial terms and I just saw her at a sister-in-laws funeral a couple of months ago and at our granddaughter's graduations last weekend. We DO NOT discuss politics with each other! When I bash "leftist socialist liberals" in my posts, I mean no offense to individuals with TRUE liberal ideas! Liberal use to mean an individual with an OPEN MIND. The meaning of the term has drastically changed! "Liberal" no longer means someone with a "live and let live" attitude. Liberals today--Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, etc.--and their "followers" believe their way is the only way and want to impose it on everyone else! That includes taking away "our" guns. In the last election I voted against the republican challenger and for the incumbent democrat governor in Ohio because the democrat was more pro-gun than the republican. Same with the attorney-general. A lot of my views are "liberal" in the original and true sense of the term. So no offense to true liberals. I just can't stand and will continue to bash the "pointy headed intellectual effete snob" liberals who want a socialist country and who want to take away my guns!
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