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Law: Calif deputy's guns found in criminal hands

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    Law: Calif deputy's guns found in criminal hands

    This is not a bash against Law Enforcement but after reading about the exemptions in Ca law it is easy to see how some can profit by circumventing the law.

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) When police responded to a report of shots fired near San Francisco in February 2011, they wound up in a standoff with 29-year-old Joseph Camilleri and his girlfriend. The two were barricaded inside a home with as many as 20 guns, including 12 illegal assault weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

    On Friday, federal and state prosecutors alleged that two of the machine-pistol type weapons were sold to Camilleri by a Sacramento County sheriff's deputy abusing an exemption in state law that lets peace officers buy weapons that are illegal for civilians to own.

    They charged Ryan McGowan, 31, and fellow deputy Thomas Lu, 42, with violating federal law by acting as straw buyers to purchase the restricted handguns, which they then sold to unqualified buyers through a licensed dealer who also faces federal charges.
    California law bars citizens from buying handguns that have not been deemed safe by the state Department of Justice, but the law exempts peace officers. Officers also can buy high-capacity magazines.

    If they get authorization from supervisors, they also can buy assault weapons. The Associated Press reported in December that California law enforcement agencies registered more than 7,600 assault rifles for individual officers, many for the officers' personal use, since their ownership was restricted for civilians a decade ago.

    "These are particularly kind of dangerous weapons," Wagner said. "There's a reason why they are not publicly offered for sale. So there is a public safety concern with the proliferation of these weapons, essentially the exploitation of this loophole, to disseminate a large amount of these weapons to the public."
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    Well. That explains all the Uizis at the Police Range.
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    If a state is desiring to avoid a flow of straw purchases through the police-purchase pipeline, it would seem simple enough to (a) allow only duty weapons to be available for purchase and (b) to periodically ensure that the officers still have possession of those weapons.

    If a state's politicos are going to be so legislatively wigged-out about people acquiring such straw-purchased weapons, one would think there would be some attempt to be aware of such weapons further up the pipeline, versus only once they're found on the street in the hands of criminals. Can you say dysfunction? Yeah.
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    Wow..When I saw the thread title I thought "Dude..I'll bet that is on "embarrased" deputy. Got his weapons stolen from him...what a shame". Nope..He SOLD them to the BG! Are you kidding me? This deputy, and his buddy need to at the very least lose their jobs, and spend some jail time. This kind of thing is an awful reflection on all of the great LEO.s out there. Stoopid act on their part.
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    Maybe they(the deputies) are part of Holders new program, "Kind of quick and furious".J/K


    Seriously, they need to be tried to the fullest extent of the law, and become felons, lose their jobs, and go to jail.
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    And some people got the audacity and the nerve to say that only law enforcement should have guns. Pfft!!!
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    I just want to know what an "assault weapon" is? I swear Commiefornia and their ambigious gun laws are off the hook!
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    I have never given this many likes on one thread, but I liked them and really can't think of anything to add on top of them. Good job on the posts. Couldn't agree more(or is that couldn't agree less? You know what I mean...great posts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit51 View Post
    I have never given this many likes on one thread, but I liked them and really can't think of anything to add on top of them. Good job on the posts. Couldn't agree more(or is that couldn't agree less? You know what I mean...great posts).
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    It figures, in Cali this a big deal.....In free states, no story at all

    These are particularly kind of dangerous weapons," Wagner said. "There's a reason why they are not publicly offered for sale. So there is a public safety concern with the proliferation of these weapons, essentially the exploitation of this loophole, to disseminate a large amount of these weapons to the public."
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    I like it when police are held to the same standards as the public, and prosecuted properly when they break the law. It happens all to infrequently. I don't say it often, but props to cali for doing the right thing in this situation.

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    From the link:

    Two other Sacramento-area police officers also were implicated in illegal weapons sales but not charged because they didn't turn large profits, Wagner said.
    What a sweet heart deal for two crooked cops. If a civilian did this stuff it would result in a long term at club fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig 210 View Post
    From the link:

    "Two other Sacramento-area police officers also were implicated in illegal weapons sales but not charged because they didn't turn large profits, Wagner said."


    What a sweet hear deal for two crooked cops. If a civilian did this stuff it would result in a long term at club fed.
    WHAT?!?!?!?! No "Distributing Weapons of Mass Destruction" charges?????
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    "Two other Sacramento-area police officers also were implicated in illegal weapons sales but not charged because they didn't turn large profits, Wagner said."
    So, criminals making small profits are given a bye, as if the criminal acts they'd committed didn't occur? And bureaucrats wonder why citizens mistrust and disbelieve.
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