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I'm not always in agreement with some NRA past positions, but they are an important 'voice' that I will continue to support.
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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NRA Life Member
Like it or not, the NRA is our voice in Government. To say you won't support them because you get too much junk mail is absurd. Don't open it, chuck it in the trash and move on.
For those that say they put a spin on issues to support their agenda, we'll gee whiz, welcome to the big league. It's how the game is played.
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To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
I think that both the NRA, and the GOA are positives in the continuing battle to not have our 2nd amendments rights diminished, or abrogated. I do believe that they both absolutely have political agendas...but still are upholding the values that most of us have within us. My way is to let all who will hear me know that my support of legal, thoughtful, and careful carrying of arms is within me ...a civic duty and heartfelt responsibility.
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First, welcome aboard the forum.
I, too, am a Life Member of the NRA -- a "Distinguished Life Member", yet. However, danged if I have any idea what I did to become distinguished -- unless it was to live this long without becoming extinguished. I also belong to a couple of other national RKBA groups.
However, for some years now, I have devoted my efforts to the grassroots organizations and efforts. IMHO, that's where the real progress has been and needs to continue to be made. Many of the "national" wins were started locally -- e.g., see The National Park Service self defense ban repeal effort time line
Even at the national level, check out NRA's actual role in Heller.
The NRA is always behind the curve at the politics of the State and totally missing on local issues. That's where the fight goes on in the trenches. If you are committed, you might check out Kentucky Coalition to Carry Concealed, Inc We, here in Virginia, have put over a thousand folk in the State GA building at the same time. We have generated over 15,000 emails, overnight. We show up at local council meeting and speak. It works.
I strongly recommend every one get involved ay the local level. If your Sates doesn't have a grassroots RKBA organization, work to start one. If yours is weak, work to build it up. If it is strong, help keep it that way. Check out: Links to State and Local Gun Rights Organizations ; Open Carry Gun Laws: Pro-Gun Grassroots Groups Taking the Lead in Gun Rights Fight - ABC News ;
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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Who really cares about the general public's opinion of the NRA? If you are a member...then they work for you. Plain and simple...the rest of the public? How do you think Obama got elected?
#1.....the NRA needs to be supported.
#2.....lobbying? Hey......why should we have to lobby in the first place in order to protect our 2n amendment rights?
#3.....many view the NRA as some sort of evil force...but the records speak for themselves.
#4.....next time you become a victim of a hurricane and the locals take all of your firearms under some sort of state of emergency......how you gonna get them back
#5.....how are you gonna make the ******** who stole your firearms under some illegal pretense pay for what they did illegally?
#6......how are you going to keep that from happening again to you or your fellow brother?
#7.....how are you going to keep the rest of the ******** from taking away every thing you have along with your rights under the constitution?
I don't forcefully ask everyone to become a member of the NRA.....it's a personal choice. If you own or carry firearms, then it's a small insurance policy that you support the NRA. This is not a gang nor is it a teamster's union. They don't play games and they defend you each and every time something stupid happens that you don't know about. New laws, someone else fixing to go to jail. Families hands behind backs and open to terrorism because of laws.
Since the general public can't seem to stick together or act as a team for the benefit of all....we need a power that will perform when needed. If we worked as a team alone, we wouldn't need to seek a higher power and financially support it. It is what it is...and we've made it as such. Backbone means never having to pay anyone to do your dirty deeds. America lost it's backbone before I was born and I'm a young 47 years old now. Without the NRA, there would essentially be no country left for us to be proud of and no constitution for our next generation to respect. The "public"....quite frankly makes me sick. I wish I could relinquish my membership from that but it's not possible.
If the people of Texas and I were to take an anti 2A position would the NRA advocate that on my behalf? If not they are not my voice are they?
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I think the NRA and GOA hurt, rather than help gun rights. Their extremism, fear-mongering and irrationality alienate those in the middle who might otherwise be supportive of gun rights. Wayne LaPierre is especially egregious as someone who is overly strident and inflammatory in his comments. I support the Second Amendment, but never the NRA or GOA. If both organizations were to go away tomorrow, gun owners would be better off and better-served.
Don't get me wrong, I belong to the NRA. I support much of what they do. They do not always refine their efforts, and do resort to fear mongering and some dirty money collection tactics.
They are slowly morphing into something more than what they used to be. The ship seems to be moving back to 2A rights only battles as of late. They still have more correcting to do.
They also have been very slow to act on major issues as well. They seem to wait longer and longer in supporting the initial people involved in lawsuits that will further to keep our 2A rights. Seeing as the cost to win a battle in court is rather expensive, that is sad.