September 14th, 2006 07:14 PM
Rights vs Laws
Was watching the pen and teller show (Gun Control is BS) and they had rep. Hutchinson(sp, sorry) on. The lady that lost her parents in the Libby's shootings in TX.
In it she says that she was/is mad at herself for obeying such a stupid law. If she hadn't, her family may still be alive today.
So, with all the talk and everything else, do you agree with her, that she should have disobeyed the law or no, she obeyed the law and that is what counts.
*side: How come I had to agree to the rulez again? When I hit post topic it went to that screen. Just curious
September 14th, 2006 07:27 PM
The rules intro thing Wayne is just introduced - primarily to make sure new members read the rules - and in fact even current members. That way there is little excuse if folks infringe them
Bumper has a posted a thread on that very matter. http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ad.php?t=14328
Re the ''legal/illegal'' deal. I really do not want illegalities to be subjects of board discussion - even if hypothetical. It is a minefield.
I will go so far as to say - each and every individual must do what they (personally) consider right and proper in any given circumstance - weighing pro's and con's. If that should result in any technical law-breaking, then that is for them to decide.
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September 14th, 2006 07:58 PM
Chris, Oh. Well, it didn't hurt to read them again. And good idea also. Even through I had read them once, I found myself re-reading them before I hit the agree button.
You slickters you
September 15th, 2006 01:34 AM
September 15th, 2006 01:55 AM
Hind sight is 20-20. Even though she wishe she hadn't obeyed the improtant thing is she did. Then she did more she worked to change the law untill it was changed. If you don't like a law work to get it changed. get involved it works.
September 19th, 2006 01:18 PM
The really hard part is to balance the safety of your loved ones vs obeying a senseless ordinance that puts you in a unsafe situation.
Usually I avoid these places like the plague but there are certain situations that cannot be avoided. We must all work together to change these but until then it boils down to is it not better to be judged my 12 than carried by 6?
"The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century
September 19th, 2006 03:38 PM
Actually, if I recall the story, it was Congresswoman Susan Gratia-Hupp who was at that shooting incident - not Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson.
September 19th, 2006 04:46 PM
The real problem is this: If you disregard a law, that we all think is pointless, with the guise of protecting yourself and your family, and were involved in a "Libby's" incident, you could and likely would be prosecuted for voilating that law.
The prosecution would paint you as a vigalante. The jury might see you as a loving, caring family man, but they would also see you as a gun toting, modern day Wyatt Earp thanks to the same lawyer.
A wise man once told me that juries were manned by people that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.
September 19th, 2006 04:48 PM
I read the rules.
I'll shut up.
Gun control is hitting what you aim at
September 20th, 2006 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by Wayne
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos)
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September 20th, 2006 11:46 AM
The shooting happened before TX had CCW laws. So she obeyed the law and left her gun in the car.
After the shooting, instead of doing what most do and call for more gun control, she ran in the (house/senate?), won, and pushed for CCW.
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