2A - STOP SB249 - Progressive CA Gun Laws Step on Legal Owner's Necks - Socialism

2A - STOP SB249 - Progressive CA Gun Laws Step on Legal Owner's Necks - Socialism

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    2A - STOP SB249 - Progressive CA Gun Laws Step on Legal Owner's Necks - Socialism

    Senator Leland Yee's SB 249 makes thousands of law-abiding California gun owners criminals.What is SB 249?

    Senate Bill 249 is a California State Senate bill, authored by Senator Leland Yee (San Francisco), designed to prohibit the possession, importation, making, selling, transferring, or loaning of any [firearm] "conversion kit."

    What happens if SB 249 passes?

    If SB 249 passes, beginning July 1, 2013, violating the newly-added gun control laws would subject people to civil and criminal liability. California Penal Code section 17(a) makes a violation of SB 249, if enacted, a misdemeanor crime. SB 249 would also allow a prosecutor to bring a civil action against a person possessing a "conversion kit." Such a civil action could impose a fine and require the owner to surrender their weapon without compensation.

    What can I do to STOP SB 249?

    The STOP SB 249 campaign has made it easy for you to take action against this bill. Please visit Take Action! | Stop SB 249! and take advantage of our many free tools that allow you to STAND UP and FIGHT BACK against SB 249 and the gun-grabbing Sen. Leland Yee.

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    Who is STOP SB 249 and StopSB249.org?

    The STOP SB 249 campaign is a coalition made up of The Calguns Foundation, Cal-FFL, and thousands of law-abiding California gun owners and civil rights advocates opposed to SB 249.

    For more information on SB 249 and how it could affect you, your Second Amendment rights, and possibly even your business, please visit:

    Stop SB 249! | A campaign to STOP California Senate Bill 249


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    Just what exactly is a “conversion kit” as referred in SB249??
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    Just what exactly is a “conversion kit” as referred in SB249??
    Sir, since you worked for a living (like the role reversal there?... LOL),

    Existing law makes possession of an assault weapon a public nuisance, authorizes the Attorney General, district attorney, or city attorney to bring a civil action to enjoin possession of the weapon, authorizes imposition of a civil fine, and, with certain exceptions, requires disposition of the weapon by sale at public auction or by destruction.

    This bill would, commencing July 1, 2013, make possession of a conversion kit a public nuisance, would authorize a civil action to enjoin possession of a conversion kit, would authorize imposition of a civil fine, and, with certain exceptions, would, similarly, require disposition of the conversion kit.

    The joke is on us,,,,,,, this bill (disclaimer - I need to do more researdh) does not DEFINE WHAT CONVERSION KIT IS. That is the sad point of this.

    I'll look further into the wording of the bill and see if they further enhance the silly 'ASSUALT WEAPON' attributes to this.

    CA is going to Hell. Hopefully it will not suck OR, NV and AZ into the Pacific when it just faulters into Public Riots and such. OR, NV and AZ would be well warned to set up reverse checkpoints, because they do not want the Highly Intellectual Progressive 'smart power people' who reside in CA to migrate to their states. Oops, OR is almost lost on this case.


    Please refer to Source for more: SB 249 (Yee): Firearms: assault weapon conversion kits. (California Senate Bill)
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    I was stationed at Travis AFB from 1975 to 1984 before all of the foolish laws were enacted. Things were much simpler back then, SB249 as I read it is so vague as to enable the government to ban anything they chose and to make criminals of anyone who inadvertently violates the law.

    This bill would, commencing July 1, 2013, and with certain exceptions, prohibit any person from importing, making, selling, loaning, transferring, or possessing any conversion kit, as defined, designed to convert certain firearms with a fixed magazine into firearms with the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and other features making the firearm an assault weapon and would make violations subject to criminal penalties. By creating new crimes, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.
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    Forgot to add. CA has already passed laws that require MANDATORY REGISTRATION of all new LONG GUNs after Janurary 1st, 2013.

    The CA DOJ 'picks and chooses' which hand gun or semi-auto they like (and makes the OEM pay big $$ to get onto the annual DOJ 'legal CA Firearms List') so that the FFLs/Shops can sell them here. Extortion.

    If you live in CA, buy your long arms now.

    Thanks to msgt/ret for the clarification.

    Exit note: Why would anyone but the cops be allowed to own a weapon/rifle in CA, besides the cops, that has a truly detachable mag? (note: I did not say clip... LOL)
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    Uh oh, I already own a "fully automatic" .357 to .38 Spl. conversion. The SP 101 has an instant internal conversion kit. I'm in trouble for sure.

    That's why we need to cut this state in half at about Williams. Leave all the morons in the southern half and close the border. We would do just fine with Redding as our Capitol and we can watch the utopia with binoculars from here. Because when the wind blows from the south, we can sure smell the BS.

    On another note, no one is going to make me feel guilty or criminal if a law is made after I already have something.
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    SB249 Will Lead to Confiscation of 500,000 legally purchased Rifles/Pistols.

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    The language of the bill is going to be changed next week. The bullet button will be banned, and 7/1/2013 all BB rifles will be illegal contraband. The must be turned in and there will be NO COMPENSATION, NO GRANDFATHERING, ZERO. Yee the author has said "No discussion,No debate". This will be the largest seizure of firearms in the history of the US. Before you folks who hate California start slamming us, we are here because we have to, we have no choice. Civil Rights should be guaranteed where ever one lives. We are shooters/enthusiasts like you. Help us in the fight, spread the word. PREVENT THIS STATES MENTALITY from taking your 2A Rights. A2

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    Apparently, this is now up for vote as it has cleared the committee with even worse text change.
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    Here is the best source of info on this and the growning efforts to fight this, from CalGun.net

    The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!! - Calguns.net
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    ^ From the CalGuns web site, there are some good comments about the whole thing, including: "I'm sick and tired of this nonsense. These politicians NEED to be concerned with our fiscal and moral demise; not BBs."

    Full-auto parts are already controlled and criminalized for possession (unless taxed). Hard to understand what's so awful about "converting" a gun. Can't be as treacherous as those barrel shrouds.
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    This thread is about one worthless California message of being closed. Stick to the OP's subject.
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    That has got to be heading towards the same type of mindset in Chicago and DC,where other states seem to be progressing towards reinstating 2A rights,Yahoos like YEE are trying to strip those rights away and leave you guys with slingshots.They are not only trying to grab guns you legally own and possess now,but STEALthem with no recourse for compensation.If that isn't Illegal,unethical,and downright BS.
    Something tells me if this bill passes it will end up in SCOTUS
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