UN Arms Treaty (MERGED)

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    I think you can trust the Senate about as far as you can trust the SCOTUS! Their decisions have not really been too great lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RKflorida View Post
    The senate said last year that there was no way that treaty would pass. And this is a Democrat controlled senate! Of course that was then, this is now. Never know with these slimeballs.
    They will take that position until after this upcoming election, and then we will see what positions they will take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    @ Oneshot^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I can't view the link in the article that states what is in the Treaty. .


    ^^^Funny^^^^^^^^^

    Neither can I. I've clicked on it, this is the words in their article, text of the ATT, where the link is, but takes you nowhere, as will any other Google link that is supplied by the UN pertaining to this subject(the ATT)


    This , taken from Wikipedia may be the only thing that will stop this for now.........


    As of September 14, 2011, 58 US Senators (45 Republicans and 13 Democrats) have expressed their opposition to an ATT that would limit the Second Amendment rights of US citizens.[14] As this group comprises far more than 1/3 of the Senate, it is sufficient to block ratification of the treaty by the United States if the treaty addresses civilian ownership of firearms. However, the strength of the opposition remains unclear because the treaty will not likely address the Second Amendment issue.

    Taken from here Arms Trade Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    What you , and all the other naysayers should see, is the UN is evil, always has been always will, promoting a One World Government as their ultimate goal, and is the main tool/vehicle for the multinationalist wealthy 5% who wish to control EVERYTHING.
    This plan has been in the makings for 100's of years, and IDK why, because the idiots who thought it up are dead guys now.
    It makes no sense to me and you, but that does not matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg View Post
    ...from my cold, dead hands.
    Exactly how I feel on this one. Anyone else restocking their .223 ammo?

    If anyone here believe Nobama can't push this through and bypass Congress, you're sorely mistaken. He's done it several times already, and with something as controversial as this, he'll do it again.

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    As of September 14, 2011, 58 US Senators (45 Republicans and 13 Democrats) have expressed their opposition to an ATT that would limit the Second Amendment rights of US citizens.[14] As this group comprises far more than 1/3 of the Senate, it is sufficient to block ratification of the treaty by the United States if the treaty addresses civilian ownership of firearms. However, the strength of the opposition remains unclear because the treaty will not likely address the Second Amendment issue.



    Taken from here Arms Trade Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Here is another reason to me to be (if not concerned) at least alert. A wise man wrote once..."Never say never".

    With Soros money behind it...add Bloomberg, that makes a big money "battering ram" for gun rights just between the two of them.

    I don't say run around screaming, but it is something to keep a watchful eye on. Watch who supports it.....who wouldn't. Doesn't hurt to tell those political "monkeys" that you are against such a assault against American Freedom invading our country.

    Remember there is a "Party of Lawyers" out there and they have shown that they know how to skirt or even down right defy our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Oath of Congress:



    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    I won't disagree but that it is not the point in this topic. You can't be blaming Obama for everything. The SENATE ratifies the treaty. I wish folks would start recognizing that although Obama has done shifty things the Congress is allowing it.

    And if you or anyone needs a history lesson to see the abuse of powers that our Presidents have wielded you can go back to the first one. Let us not forget about Bush and the Patriot Act. Folks blame Busg but it was congress that passed it.
    Obama has already proven that if he can't do it legally, he'll push out an executive order. Remember the executive order requiring four border states to report anyone buying 2 or more of certain guns? Did that not affect the 2nd Amendment? He doesn't give 2 cents about the law, so why do you think he won't try to bypass it?

    Say what you want about Bush, but he was 100x the president that this piece of garbage is.
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    Buy more ammo is good advice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Buy more ammo is good advice...
    Yup. I know I'll be ordering a good bit here soon.

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    Yeah, everybody buy more ammo. It's not gone up in price high enough. .556 Ammo has only gone up .20 cents a round!
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    To those asking about which states I say take a wild guess...

    Hint: there is an imaginary line associated with these states

    Also those who were saying that the senate won't ratify it you're right. Someone will filibuster if they have to.
    BUT
    Obama has already shown he can and will skirt the constitution via regulatory administrations such as the EPA and BATFE

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    What you , and all the other naysayers should see, is the UN is evil, always has been always will, promoting a One World Government as their ultimate goal, and is the main tool/vehicle for the multinationalist wealthy 5% who wish to control EVERYTHING.
    This plan has been in the makings for 100's of years, and IDK why, because the idiots who thought it up are dead guys now.
    It makes no sense to me and you, but that does not matter.[/QUOTE]
    Why do you keep saying, including me, folks are naysayers. Because I do not drink the NRA and GOA Koolaid daily? Got news for you. I don't like the UN either. But they are an impotent entity. The only way they can make the US do anything is if the US wants to abide by a treaty, or an accor, or a proclamation. But for the UN to have power over the US is ridiculus.

    I am always concerned when anything comes up that could affect our rights. But this is a US thing, not a UN. And it takes more than Obama. But for folks that think the sky is falling every time Mr. La Pierre farts, that is fine with me.

    BTW: Obama is not making ammo prices go up. It is post like these that are making people nervous.

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