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    Not really worred here, except for State Laws that are chaning to beat the UN to the punch. My own state government despises my individual rights more than the UN.

    Anyway, just because I own a firearm, does not mean I will be able to use it effectively. Any in many situations, would not want to use it.
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    Gun Control Imposed by the United Nations

    This is a video I found on MrTV, a great site by the way, done by Dick Morris warning of the upcoming signing of the UN small arms treaty by the Obama Administration. I have also linked to the online petition you can sign urging your congressmen to call on Sec. State Clinton to not sign it.

    I am a little worried about how this could go down for us. Could this be one of the reasons Obama hasn't pushed any real gun control during his time in office? Because he knew he was going to sign this and make the 2A moot?

    Dick Morris Warns of Gun Control Imposed by the United Nations | MRCTV


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    Personally I believe the congressmen/senators will put more weight on letters received from us rather than online petitions or probably even email.

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    "UN Treaty" thread running, over here: UN Arms Treaty (merged).
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    Sent emails, now will be writting letters tonight. Thanks for the links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caertaker View Post
    Not to be argumentative but I fail to see how you can still hold this opinion given recent developments. I guess I have a very different take on things as I watch current events unfold. I think this regime has proven time and time again that it can get away with whatever it chooses with no repercussions. The only hope we have is to instill a smidgeon of doubt in the hearts of our elected officials by letting them know not only are we are watching, but that we understand the boundaries of their power. Anything less and you have already let the BG get too close and breech your best defense.

    I for one appreciate "heads up".
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    We regularly discuss the importance of situational awareness and taking steps to prevent a confrontation requiring defensive deployment of deadly force. The same principle applies here; an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

    Contact your senator and express your outrage over OB's support of the treaty!
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    Soros Promotes UN Control Over Gun Ownership:
    Joe Wolverton, II
    The New American
    Saturday, July 7, 2012

    George Soros is financing the fight to give the United Nations control of your guns.

    Through his Media Matters organization, Soros is dumping pro-UN gun control propaganda into the mainstream media to coincide with the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty being held in New York July 2–27.

    ...snip...Constitutionalists will instantly notice a couple of red flags raised by Media Matters’ word choice.

    First, there need be no quotation marks around the phrase freedom to own a gun. Americans should enjoy the unqualified right to bear arms and it is not some antiquated idea or some unicorn-like mythical creature that requires special punctuational treatment. Americans are well aware that an unarmed citizenry is easier to subdue and will rightly resist all efforts to abridge that right.

    Read More: Soros Promotes UN Control Over Gun Ownership Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


    U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
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    What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail?

    While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to:

    1.Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership.

    2.Confiscate and destroy all “unauthorized” civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course).

    3.Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).

    4.Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation.

    5.In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.

    Read More:U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms - Forbes
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    Here's an article that wasn't written by a right-wing fearmonger:

    Obama's view on the Global Treaty
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrwizr View Post
    Here's an article that wasn't written by a right-wing fearmonger:

    Obama's view on the Global Treaty


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Dick Morris was a Bill Clinton Organizer and His right hand man for his second term.
    How much more left leaning can you get?


    Now that hes telling us what these deviant devils are trying to do through the back door, you're calling him a right wing fearmonger?

    Regardless of what this administration "promises", this will be another step towards taking away personal ownership of guns in the United States. It's inevitable that when politicians are as rabidly anti-gun as the majority of Democrat politicians say they are, they will take advantage of any crack in the wall to tear it down


    Thanks for the informative link Mike.

    With some luck we will have enough in power who will see this for what it really is, and shoot it down fast.
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    People need to quit drinking the kool-aid. Although Obama has not moved on guns as of yet, he is not pro-gun. A far bigger threat right now is that we do have a candidate that invariably vetoed pro-gun bills and signed anti-gun bills through his whole term as a Governor. I can only guess the reason that the NRA backs him is that it means money for them. I am an Independent (Republican for 40+ years) voter but this election I lose completely on the gun issue. Both candidates are a threat to our gun laws and the Republican is the most obvious threat! This is not a happy time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrwizr View Post
    Here's an article that wasn't written by a right-wing fearmonger:

    Obama's view on the Global Treaty
    Without getting into the politics I view anything the current Washington cartel does or says with distrust and suspicion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Dick Morris was a Bill Clinton Organizer and His right hand man for his second term.
    How much more left leaning can you get?


    Now that hes telling us what these deviant devils are trying to do through the back door, you're calling him a right wing fearmonger?
    Dick Morris has been a faithful Fox News right winger for some time.

    Regardless of what this administration "promises", this will be another step towards taking away personal ownership of guns in the United States.
    Tell us how this will happen. I want you to quote the exact passages in the treaty that tell us it will be a step in taking our guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjh2657 View Post
    ...A far bigger threat right now is that we do have a candidate that invariably vetoed pro-gun bills and signed anti-gun bills through his whole term as a Governor. I can only guess the reason that the NRA backs him is that it means money for them. I am an Independent (Republican for 40+ years) voter but this election I lose completely on the gun issue. Both candidates are a threat to our gun laws and the Republican is the most obvious threat! This is not a happy time!
    The NRA does not back OB because of his actions antithetical to the second amendment; his position is known on this topic and he is an immediate threat to our right to keep andbear arms as long as he holds office! Romney on the other hand addressed the NRA convention and appears to be friendly toward the 2A. Maybe he isn't perfect but he is 1000x better than the alternative!

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    Once again, other than in black helicopter land, the SCOTUS has already decided that a treaty does not supersede the Constitution or Constitutional rights.

    In order for this treaty to be a concern, one of two things would have to happen first:
    -The Second Amendment would have to be repealed
    -SCOTUS would have to reverse its prior decision in this subject area
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    Quote Originally Posted by torgo1968 View Post
    Dick Morris has been a faithful Fox News right winger for some time.

    Tell us how this will happen. I want you to quote the exact passages in the treaty that tell us it will be a step in taking our guns.

    ^^^So this automatically make Morris inherently evil?^^^^^^

    Not comparing it to anything[/B]

    I already posted it in another thread thats running, go look it up if you don't believe it,,

    Or you could just keep them Rose Colored Glasses on,,,,,,,,,
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