Does AK-47 sound scarier?
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July 26th, 2012 05:26 PM
Does AK-47 sound scarier?
I have a question. Why did Obama specifically call out the AK-47 today in his comments supporting more gun control? His comments are presumably in response to the CO shooting, and wanting to play on people fears and knee-jerk reactions to prevent that from happening again. Did he just assume that the AK sounds more violent and war like than an AR? Would not enough people know what an AR-15 is to be as scared and moved by his call to take them away from civilians?
Or, I guess it could just be the classic media guide to firearms where every rifle is a AK and everything else is a glock. Any other ideas on why he called out the AK? I would say maybe because it is foreign and a lot of ARs are American Made, but with this guy I think that would be the oposite motivation for him.
July 26th, 2012 05:29 PM
He had just finished up looking over the "Journalist's Guide To Firearms Identification."
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July 26th, 2012 05:31 PM
He probably did it because, like any person who lacks a full understanding of guns, an AK is like the name Kleenex. To them it means any type of weapon of that sort, regardless of actual name. Just like those in the media who call a revolver a Glock. They haven't taken the time to become educated on the subject. At least that's my thought.
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July 26th, 2012 05:35 PM
It is just a classic stereotypical labeling choice. AK's represent, correctly or not, all that "we" are "subconsciously afraid" of, Terrorists, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Arabs, Africans, Communists, Chinese Comm Block, Cartels, Mobsters, Gangsters, Rappers, the Hood.......you name it. An AK conjures up a world of fear and hate.
An AR or M4 conjures up Good Guys and John Wayne.
And.........at the end of the day.......he can always use that silver tongue to argue he meant it should cover AR's and M4's and Remington deer rifles and lever actions........
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July 26th, 2012 05:36 PM
Because of two things, IMO: the operative word is control, and it has little to do with the theatre shooting or any other specific crime; as well, the AK47 is the poster-boy for inappropriate weaponry that scares/frustrates the anti's to no end.
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July 26th, 2012 05:42 PM
I don't think it sounds scarier, but Gunny Highway says it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you.
July 26th, 2012 05:45 PM
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July 26th, 2012 05:57 PM
I'm suprised he didn'tr refer to it as an AK-87.
His speech writers at least coached him on this one.
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July 26th, 2012 06:00 PM
I think he screwed up and said AK-47 instead of AR-15. He doesn't know or care about the difference. It is this typical lack of detail and effort to understand our needs as a nation that will be Obama's downfall.
July 26th, 2012 06:18 PM
I disagree. I believe that even if he doesn't know the difference, his advisors and speech writers so. Using the term AK-47 has a real psychological affect on folks. The very term immediately brings to mind someone who is an armed enemy. AR-15 or M4 bring to mind military weapons used by the good guys. "AK-47" has a fear factor. Whether you agree with O'Bama or not, the things that he says and does are very deliberate and meant to invoke certain emotions (in this case fear).
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July 26th, 2012 06:25 PM
That's the super powerful assault rifle and way too scary to say!
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July 26th, 2012 06:28 PM
It's also the most prolific and identifiable image of small arms in the world.....even the simple silhouette of an AK-47 is immediately identifiable and associated the world over. The image alone also has meaning for many and many different meanings. Freedom, terrorism, communism, etc. The list goes on. It's in the news every day, it's in the movies, and apparently it's not only revered, but it's also abhorred.
the AK47 is the poster-boy for inappropriate weaponry that scares/frustrates the anti's to no end.
That depends on a lot of different things in the middle of a sentence. In the field....it's either the muzzle end or the stock end.
Does AK-47 sound scarier?
July 26th, 2012 06:34 PM
July 26th, 2012 06:40 PM
Personally, I think AKs sound a lot scarier. And I'm sure our Vietnam vets will agree.
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July 26th, 2012 06:44 PM
I agree. Everyone knows what an AK-47 is. Most people also know what an M-16 is as well but have now idea what AR-15 or M4 means. When I describe what an AR 15 is to a non gun person I tell them its a civillian version of the m-16. They seem to get it if I tell them it's a civillian version of an M4, I then have to explain to them what an M4 is. An AK-47 brings an instant image to everyones mind, and as stated already is often associated with terrorist or the "bad guys".
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