If handguns are the problem, why is banning semi-auto rifles the solution?
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August 7th, 2012 05:40 PM
If handguns are the problem, why is banning semi-auto rifles the solution?
Gun prohibitionist Josh Sugarmann may have just done the firearms rights community a monumental – albeit certainly unintentional – favor by offering some quotes to a Reuters reporter about the gun used in the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting.
If handguns are the problem, why is a semi-auto rifle ban the solution? - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com
August 7th, 2012 05:48 PM
Nobody has actually put a finger on the "problem".....ever. Knee jerk reactions make this difficult to pin down. The authorities and the media always over-think things and twist anything into their hidden agendas. Remember...this is an election year. And atrocities run in threes (always)......airplane crashes....mass shootings, etc......... We seem to go through this a lot, but we have learned very little.
August 7th, 2012 05:58 PM
Humans will never be perfect, and in this life we will never achieve utopia. The best we can do is to resist the idiotic, knee-jerk reaction to punish the masses for those few who cause serious harm to others, and make sure that those who do violence, steal, or fail to uphold their end of a contract are punished according to the crime. Demanding more than that from our government is a foolish and dangerous thing to do.
August 7th, 2012 06:20 PM
no suprise here to read about the many anti knee jerk reactions.
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August 7th, 2012 06:35 PM
Well the Tuscaloosa shooting and Toronto were only a few days before the CO shooting and then this redneck idiot in Wisconsin so hopefully they don't go in 4's
Originally Posted by Ram Rod
August 7th, 2012 06:43 PM
The problem is not the gun.
It is LEO that refuse to do their job, instead of tracking down bad guys the keep track of good peole using local indoor ranges.
Collages don't report nuts cases they cover it up then want to blame the Gun.
Gangbangers with no right to have a firearm shoot up a lot of folks in Milwaukee every year but they were good boys the gun was the problem.
They don't care what gun they ban or restrict, it is just the stepping stone to the next band or restriction.
listen you will hear this used "well any reasonable person would agree no one should have________ right so why not work together to get rid of it."
The goal the plan is to chip away everywhere they can little by little till they are all banned.
Go to some of the meeting these groups have not hard to sit in and listen. I sat in a many About repealing CC in Wisconsin sponsored by our union.
They provide talking points number to qoute.
August 7th, 2012 08:15 PM
As always, great work exposing the mind-numbed fools we refer to as anti-gun nuts.
Surgarmann has long been running off at the mouth uncontrolably, showing the true objective of these elitist sicko's and uninformed whacko's.
This statement from the article speaks volumes;
In the KCTS Public Matters program Monday evening, KOMO radio host John Carlson made a revealing observation about demands by gun control proponents to require federal background checks on all firearms transactions, and to expand those checks to cover more people with mental health issues. Carlson’s answer was almost brutal.
“Keep in mind,” Carlson stressed, “that if there was a proposal that would make it more difficult for those that are mentally ill to obtain a firearm, most of the opposition would not come from gun rights supporters or the NRA, it would come from civil rights activists within the mental health community.”
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August 7th, 2012 11:26 PM
I'm always aghast at anyone (think news media) seeking serious information from Josh Sugarman. It's one thing that he's on the 'other side', which I can respect - but he is so completely ignorant and oblivious of how guns work and the differences among them, that his voice is close to meaningless.
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August 8th, 2012 03:14 AM
They (government) is not worried about your handguns. But they do know that assault rifles pose a serious threat to their tyranny brown shirt forces they are working to place on our streets. Come on people use your noggins for this one. Its not about safety.
"I believe that the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive." - Ronald Reagan
August 8th, 2012 03:23 AM
In the minds of those that believe banning semi-auto rifles its the same mind set they have in thinking if all guns are banned the problem with criminals and mass/serial killers will vanish. Basically most are driven by fear.
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
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and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
August 8th, 2012 03:52 AM
I think there are two camps: a small group of nefarious individuals with a formal agenda of control and a far larger unthinking mindless mass who are just afraid and figure it can't hurt. The first group plays to the latter group's weakness, tells them what they want to hear so the latter hands over power. "Same old story, same old song and dance, my friends"
August 9th, 2012 04:31 PM
I've known Carlson for several years and he was spot-on with this remark. We chat on the phone occasionally about gun stuff usually before he goes on the air so he's got his facts in order.
Originally Posted by oneshot
He was a driving force behind Three Strikes and Hard Time, and he hasn't forgotten that anti-gunners were largely opposed to or dismissive of both strategies.
August 9th, 2012 04:39 PM
You are right its not about safety, its about control, the overlords get scared and we have to pay with lost liberties.....
Originally Posted by tangoseal
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August 17th, 2012 02:29 PM
None of the anti-gun actions make any sense.
Jim Brady pushed for the banning of rifles with "evil" features and semi-auto pistol magazines with more than 10 rounds.
Jim Brady was shot with a six-shot .22 revolver.
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August 17th, 2012 03:32 PM
They make perfect sense to me. They know that a total ban on weapons starting this moment would never stand a chance of working. The backlash would be tremendous. Their method of going after small portions of weapons at a time is the way to go. Notice that they do not go after the items that mainstream hunters or sportsmen use but instead they concentrate on small items that do not have massive support.
Originally Posted by livewire9880
Bayonet lugs? We can give that up. My deer rifle or duck gun don't need one.
Thirty round mags? If you can't hit a deer with one shot you shouldn't be hunting.
Machine guns? The Constitution was never meant to allow anything but muskets.
Gun control advocates know exactly what they are doing. They know that taking away someones liberties needs to be done slowly in a way that does not at first appear to directly harm the majority of people who own weapons.
This is done the same way you would eat an elephant. One bite at a time.
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