Chicago out of options on homicides: will write new laws against legal gun owners
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September 8th, 2012 08:43 PM
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Chicago out of options on homicides: will write new laws against legal gun owners
So far this month, the number of (Chicago) homicides has surpassed an average of one per day.
My Comments: So let us punish the legal gun owners with more regulations.
..snip...The first would require that Illinois firearm owners report when a weapon is sold, given away, lost or stolen. At the South Side event, McCarthy and Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez both said they are pushing for legislation that would require such reports.
“Now, that is not gun control,” McCarthy said. “That is simply telling us where your guns are.”
My Comments: We should outlaw guns in Chicago! Yeah, that's the ticket. Then all the criminals would have to turn them in and the murder rate would remain the same as they turned back to using knives and hammers.
Fighting crime a 'day-to-day' effort, top cop says - chicagotribune.com
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September 8th, 2012 08:46 PM
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It's Chicago. Reason went out the window decades ago.
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September 8th, 2012 09:01 PM
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The first would require that Illinois firearm owners report when a weapon is sold, given away, lost or stolen. At the South Side event, (Chicago Police Supt.) McCarthy and Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez both said they are pushing for legislation that would require such reports.
“Now, that is not gun control,” McCarthy said. “That is simply telling us where your guns are.”
Control, def: to exercise restraining or directing influence over, to regulate; to have power over, to rule.
Notifying where people are = population control.
Notifying where guns are = gun control. Ostensibly, for noble reasons, all too easily abused. Control by any other name is still control.
And, in the end, such measures targeted at the lawful won't stop criminals from acquiring and using weaponry to improve success of their crimes.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
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September 8th, 2012 09:07 PM
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Actually, I think politician control would be more effective.
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September 8th, 2012 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Control, def: to exercise restraining or directing influence over, to regulate; to have power over, to rule.
Notifying where people are = population control.
Notifying where guns are = gun control. Ostensibly, for noble reasons, all too easily abused. Control by any other name is still control.
And, in the end, such measures targeted at the lawful won't stop criminals from acquiring and using weaponry to improve success of their crimes.
Unfortunately that is far too difficult a concept for them to understand. Criminals don't follow the law. I fear that Omaha is not far behind. They've recently proposed a bill that would cost bar owners to control the "bad guys" that go there. Makes just as little sense.
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September 8th, 2012 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Actually, I think politician control would be more effective.
And criminal control the most-effective of all.
Where's your firearm, all ~5M citizens of Chicago (and outlying towns)? "On my hip, next to my five spare magazines and OC/PS ... where it should be." There's a foolproof, non-invasive way to know where every single legitimate firearm is. Short of that, everything else is a bad compromise.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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September 8th, 2012 09:18 PM
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It all boils down to the same thing, bad people doing bad things and breaking laws. Not one thing can be traced back to a law abiding citizen doing anything wrong. Chicago lawmakers need some basic education. Repeat after me,"Criminals do not obey laws, that's why they are called criminals!" Now write it 500 times on the blackboard, then pass some more gun control laws and expect them to reduce crime and violence. Oh wait, I just gave the definition of a liberal. Sorry there is nothing I can do to help!
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September 8th, 2012 09:24 PM
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I would'nt spend a RED CENT in Chicargo, Only if it help someone MOVE ; )
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September 8th, 2012 09:30 PM
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Why don't the city officials just raise the communist/nazi flags? Do people in chicago not vote?
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September 8th, 2012 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Why don't the city officials just raise the communist/nazi flags? Do people in chicago not vote?
Yes ... and some of them multiple times, apparently.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does
disarming victims
reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.

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September 8th, 2012 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
oldnfat
Why don't the city officials just raise the communist/nazi flags? Do people in chicago not vote?
Yes, and I have heard the dead mostly vote democrat
English is my second language, I have been told my use of it is harsh, apologies if this is the matter.
You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? A good guy with a gun
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September 8th, 2012 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Actually, I think politician control would be more effective.
That has my vote. Apathy in this country has driven us to this point. We better wake up now and start watching all of them and vote them out on a regular basis. THEY WORK FOR US.....WE DON'T WORK FOR THEM, no matter what they say.
A woman must not depend on protection by men. A woman must learn to protect herself.
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A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.
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September 8th, 2012 11:11 PM
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To get rid of criminals in Chicago...one would have to start with the ones in City Hall.
A woman must not depend on protection by men. A woman must learn to protect herself.
Susan B. Anthony

A armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one has to back it up with his life.
Robert Heinlein

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September 9th, 2012 12:53 AM
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Any idiot that thinks "more laws" is going to do any good, has lost their mind. There's a law against 'murder' too.... seems they don't pay attention to that one either.
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September 9th, 2012 04:39 AM
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