This is a discussion on Gun Control Advocates Can Seem Reasonable within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by SFury As the old saying goes, if you give an inch, they will try to take a mile. It's better to not ...
They probably want to insert their nanny selves into the business of others more than anything like being reasonable. If gun control proved to enhance safety, then there would be some basis for discussion and compromise. But, not only did the founders get it right with 2A, that natural right to self defense "shall not be infringed", also, empirical evidence proves that responsible gun freedom, not gun control, reduces crime.
My mind and the society in which I would choose to live work on facts. I'm not surrendering any of that. It is our duty as free citizens to support gun freedom, consistently. Ayn Rand says, "There can be no compromise on matters of knowledge, of truth, of rational conviction."
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
This is the kind of thing 2A supporters should be wary of.
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote." ~ Benjamin Franklin
Until the situation where a person requires more rounds.The tell:
"After all, banning high-capacity gun magazines doesn’t threaten the right to bear arms."
Better to have it but not need it, than to need it but get shot dead due to having run out of ammo or been legally forced to do a mag change as a result of such limits (on capacity, removable aspect (mags), or whatever).
You know Mike, you usaully post some pretty good stuff, but this aint one of them.OK, you got me on that one. I wasn't really offering to give up anything, since I don't use 100-round drums
Its exactly what gun control is, and how it starts.
Deer hunters that are restricted to using lever actions or pumps in some state giving up the right to own AR-15's or AK's because they dont use them.
Liberals thinking that there is no valid use for 100 round drums, 50 round drums,20 round drums, 15 round magazines because they dont use them.
Politicians that have bodygards protecting them thinking that no one needs guns because they dont use them.
Its a vicious cycle that never seems to end.
I've had conversations with people that were convinced that no one needed a gun for any reason...because they never needed one.
Gridlock dosent come from not giving up an inch. It comes from lack of leadership. It comes from apathy and the inability to reason. It comes from politicians that forget that their job is to do what is best for the country, not the party that they worship and adhere to.In fairness, would you? Or would I? Nope... BAM! Gridlock.
The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it...- George Orwell
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"Confidence is food for the wise man but liquor for the fool"
Join one of the anti-gun groups sit in on the meetings the talk about how to appear not to be anti-gun. To pick out the most extreme cases they CAN.
Like we can all agree that no one should be carrying a machine gun around. And "while I don't want guns band it would be Reasonable to restricting carry a AK47 in to a school ...right." They spend a lot of time at .
I was part of our Unions anti gun anti CC in Wisconsin . It was a real education on how they work.
I got kicked out some one outed me as a gun owner.
The wear down through excessive trying strategy is a time honored one though. Little kids use it all the time with their parents/caregivers.
In general the populace, despite the bogus CNN poll, actually support the 2A right now. Which is why "gun safety" or "common sense" measures are being sought by anti-gun poeple. It's the old end around play. We just need to keep saying no.