figures they'd go to twitter for information.
This is a discussion on Chicago looks to Twitter for suggestions on how to get illegal guns off the streets. within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; http://m.nbcchicago.com/nbcchicago/d...tguid=15ww7RlW I saw this on Drudge and didn't see it here. Evidently, Chicago wants to hear suggestions from its citizens on how to get illegal ...
I saw this on Drudge and didn't see it here. Evidently, Chicago wants to hear suggestions from its citizens on how to get illegal guns off the streets.
Good opportunity for you folks in Illinois to set the record sraight IMO. hashtag is whatifchicago.
If you're going to carry one weapon, might as well carry two, because as the saying goes, "Two is one, and one is none."
"Liberals can decline or whine, but I will still carry and conceal mine." - Cold Warrior. Excellent quote good sir!
figures they'd go to twitter for information.
Shoot the offenders and then take the dropped gun to the house for future use.
Takes care of two problems all at the same time.
I want to have a job where the is no accountability,a job where I can do as I dang well please and make my own laws and act like a KING. I want to be on the Supreme Court.
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They can do the same thing that works to keep drugs off the street...
Booze out of the hands of people in the Prohibition era...
They could go so far as to ban baseball bats, and consider banning pointed knives, and knives over a certain length like the UK was at one point when the gun ban failed to end violence. As it had been touted it would do so.
As long as people want to have power over others for whatever reason, the tools that give that kind of power, will always end up in the hands of determined individuals. That has been the case since the dawn of time. I doubt it will ever change.
Pleading with twittering online users for suggestions strongly implies the city "leaders" don't have the first clue of effective steps to combating street violence. Perhaps that's a stretch, but I'm betting not.
The one suggestion I'd have: allow citizens to arm themselves to the teeth, with unrestricted capacity, action type, caliber, with the right to own/carry enshrined in the state Constitution and simple, straightforward, plain-language use-of-force statutes that favor the citizen's right to defend against violence ANYWHERE he/she has a right to be.
Anything short of that is going to leave a FAR greater number of the unlawfully armed harming the citizens. The only real, effective way to reduce that number is to combat such crimes on the instant they occur, and the only practicable way to allow that to happen is for intended victims to be able to effectively defend themselves. Do THAT, and citizens in Chicago will almost certainly see the numbers of violent acts go down, as it'll quickly become far more risky for violent felons to ply their trade.
I just checked, there is a large pro-2A representation currently. ("Want less illegal guns? Legalize more guns!" , "arm the citizens!", and so on,..)
"To blame a gun for a mans decision is to foolishly attribute free will to an inanimate object"- Colion Noir.
As long as the political machine keeps getting voted in by the Chicagoans, the Governor will always be anti-2A. Unless some of the machine voted in politicians choose to override any vetos, the rising number of 2A supporters of elected officials will have no bearing on Illinois.
Lawsuits are going to be more effective in ending restrictions. Getting more rights returned, that is the big issue.
All they are doing is CYA.
Covering their ass.
"Gee, we even went to Twitter, to ask the People what we could do, and that hasn't helped"
Chicago leaders are fools.
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Wow 382 + people killed and the year isn't even over yet. I don't think the elected officials of the windy city want to hear our solution to their problems. I thought shooting people without a very good reason was illegal, so why ban guns?
The politicians running Chicago were not legally elected, IMO. They have long controlled the news media well enough to prevent people comparing notes and seeing that those who disagree are not alone.
Twitter does not have a filter to prevent the voice of the people from being heard. This is not going to turn out well for them.
Funny how messages on Twitter on are called "Tweets" when they should be called "Twits"
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Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
The twits in Chicago have it bassakwards; it IS NOT the guns doing the killing but the CRIMINALS behind the guns.According to police, 382 people have been killed so far this year, many by guns, as of the middle of September.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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Seems to me that in many large cities millions aren't on twitter, and comprehension and citizenship doesn't come from a few sound bytes or text snippets. Given the muzzling and spin that essentially occurs (of the resulting media, I mean), it might well not harm the political hacks one bit. After all, the hacks are armed with an essentially unlimited budget for rerouting into ad campaigns and the like, when it's not going their way.
IMO, the greatest harm's going to continue to be borne by the citizens, at least until they rise up and kick the hacks and thieves out of administrative and legislative roles in the state.
Trouble is, nothing will change until the citizens themselves demand better. Hasn't happened in 100yrs, and I don't see it changing anytime soon (for the citizens of Chicago). Though, of course, it could change on a dime. Witness any of the Middle East flips in the past several years. It's going to take exactly such a grassroots changeover to do it, so far as I can tell.
Sad, that such an otherwise vibrant, historically rich and worthwhile community is both mentally and politically chained, even though it's killing them.
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Mayor Rahm Emanuel should talk to Bloomberg. I'm sure he has some great ideas on how to ban guns. Stop and frisk comes to mind.
Most of the shooters and shooting victims in Chicago are gangbangers raised by their mothers in a single parent household. As much as I would like to see law abiding citizens in Illinois have the ability to ccw, it wont stop these thugs from killing each other and innocent bystanders.
Until traditional family values i.e, two parent families where the children know who their father is and have a good relationship w/ both parents is part of the culture,the killings will not stop.
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