UPDATE -- Virginia carry-over bill HB-923

UPDATE -- Virginia carry-over bill HB-923

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    Angry UPDATE -- Virginia carry-over bill HB-923

    The antis trying to backdoor change to Virginia law.

    [Re-posted from a VA-ALERT with prior approval of VCDL]

    [First person singular pronouns (I, my, mine, etc) and PVC reference Philip Van Cleave, President VCDL]

    Crime Commission moves rewrite of concealed weapons law forward!

    On Tuesday I spoke at the Crime Commission hearing held in the General Assembly Building in Richmond. The Crime Commission had been tasked to analyze HB 923, a bill introduced by Delegate Scott Lingamfelter that reorganizes Virginia's concealed weapon laws. The Commission was to make sure that the very lengthy bill would not actually change the intent of any of the concealed weapon laws as it reorganizes them into a more logical, easer to read, and easier to understand configuration.

    I spoke in favor of the bill, saying that gun owners want to obey the law and the rewrite should make that goal easier to achieve.

    The antis spoke in favor (how could they possibly oppose such a bill with a straight face?), but they couldn't let good-enough alone and had to throw in a long laundry list of things they would like to see changed in Virginia's concealed weapons laws. That was a colossal waste of time as the bill was specially written to NOT CHANGE THE INTENT OF CURRENT LAW AT ALL and the Crime Commission's job was to make sure that was true! To put that idea to rest, Delegate Lingamfelter addressed the commission and told them that he would kill his bill if anyone modified it to change current law.

    At the very end Senate Majority Leader, Tommy Norment, who is on the commission, also couldn't help himself, saying that he would like to see a FIVE-YEAR moratorium on changes to gun laws.

    I'll bet he'd love to see that! He often votes wrong on gun bills, yet is from a gun-friendly part of the state. Nice try, Senator, but no cigar.
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    "FIVE-YEAR moratorium"

    Forgive my ignorance, what does this mean?

    (Yes, I know I can google it. but I'd rather get it in proper context from here. Thanks.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71 View Post
    "FIVE-YEAR moratorium"

    Forgive my ignorance, what does this mean?

    (Yes, I know I can google it. but I'd rather get it in proper context from here. Thanks.)
    Pending how the wording was it could mean a five year hiatus or period with no new or changes to the laws, or a five year waiting period befoer the laws took effect. I would presume the hiatus or a break from new legislation or changes for five years.
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    Dave, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't any changes to the bill require it to go back to both houses to be voted on again?
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    Once we get constitutional carry and a few other concessions, they can lock it permanently for all I care. This junk of changing a few things every year is bull. Get it done already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Dave, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't any changes to the bill require it to go back to both houses to be voted on again?
    Yup.
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