NY State - Politicians call for emergency Senate vote to pass gun laws

NY State - Politicians call for emergency Senate vote to pass gun laws

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    NY State - Politicians call for emergency Senate vote to pass gun laws

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    October 11, 2012 | Filed under: News

    Ouch! Look Out NY and NYC!

    .....community leaders last Friday to call for a special legislative session aimed at passing statewide gun control measures that would make New York’s gun laws the strongest in the country.

    At the heart of that argument was a bill requiring the use of a new techonology called microstamping, which passed the state Assembly in June but has been held up by the state Senate’s Republican majority since being introduced in 2011.

    State Senator Daniel Squadron, one of the sponsors of the microstamping bill, as well as other currently stalled gun control legislation, led a press conference outside Campos Plaza at E. 12th St. and Avenue C — the site of the shooting — to call for the emergency Senate vote, while also condemning gun industry lobbyists. The Oct. 1 shooting injured one man and is still being investigated.

    “There’s no issue more important than this right now,” Squadron said, “and we need to pass these basic, commonsense laws that would make our streets safer.”

    Microstamping uses lasers to stamp a numeric code onto bullet shell casings, theoretically making it easier for police to track individual casings left at a crime scene back to the gun.......

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    No problem with the law (yeah right). Let's look at how it works with the criminal element. Oh wait!!!! For the most part it won't. Well there you go sounds like another non-workable gun law that infringes on the 2nd amendment.

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    Those fools will probably start microstamping large soda cups next....
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    “There’s no issue more important than this right now,” Squadron said, “and we need to pass these basic, commonsense laws that would make our streets safer
    That seems to be a common trait for New York's community leaders. They wouldnt know common sense if it shot them in the ass.

    If they did, they wouldnt be passing laws, they'd be enforcing the ones they had on the books.
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    "Emergency"? Where's the fire, given that it's the "safest" (sic) big city in the country?? As usual, they're talkin' out of both sides of their mouths.

    “There’s no issue more important than this right now,” Squadron said, “and we need to pass these basic, commonsense laws that would make our streets safer.”
    Hunger, trash, HIV, noise, water pollution, traffic .... Common sense, no?
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    One more reason I will not visit NY or NYC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAC55 View Post
    Those fools will probably start microstamping large soda cups next....
    I'd be happy if they'd just start "stamping" ("stomping"?) the foreheads of the career criminals and 'bangers who are making their communities a living hell. Forget the soda cups; severe, deep-imprint, one-time stamping of the violent felons, once and for all.



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    First you file off the serial number, then you file off the micro-stamp. You think the BGs won't think of that? Or just get a revolver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    No problem with the law (yeah right). Let's look at how it works with the criminal element. Oh wait!!!! For the most part it won't. Well there you go sounds like another non-workable gun law that infringes on the 2nd amendment.

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    never make it pass the GOP & Upstate controlled Senate.

    also won't make any difference, as most guns used in crimes in NYC come from other states.

    but some politicians simply want to do anything against guns, in order to get votes and make it look like they "care" and are doing "something".

    regardless of whether or not it will do any damn good.

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    The internet has helped people in NYS who believe in the 2nd amendment, have their voices heard. There are some very good web sites who's members work tirelessly to preserve our gun rights in NYS.
    There are so many forces working against us. The primary one is Bloomberg's money. He will throw money at any politician or cause which champions gun legislation. Bloomberg is trying to go national with his anti-gun agenda. Please help New Yorkers with their fight against Bloomberg and his ilk by visiting these pro 2nd amendment sites.
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    I think it's time for NY to take some tips on gun laws from neighboring Vermont. It's quite safe there.
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    I emailed the good State Senator, asking him how he reconciles state-enforced micro-stamping with the fact that the VAST majority of crime-guns in NYC are from other states.

    expect no answer, as he is interested in votes, campaign contributions, and appearing to be "doing something"...even if it really ends up doing nothing but making guns more expensive and harder to build.

    or gun makers will simply stop selling guns in NYS.......maybe that's the ultimate agenda?

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    I'll eat my hat if they ever get a conviction based on this. All the accused needs to do is say " I don't know how this microstamped casing ended up next to the victims body, but I know that I shoot hundreds of rounds a week at the local range and never pick up the brass. For all I know the BG picked up my brass behind me at the range unbeknownst to me and reloaded it or the range sold my brass to someone who reloaded it and sold it to the BG, or I found a few stray rounds in my range bag and tossed them in the trash where they were recycled". And btw, last year my garage was broken into and they cleaned out my ammo closet" and by hte way, I changed the firing pin on my gun and tossed the old one that appears to have imprinted the casing in question" , etc etc etc. There is simply no way the state can prove, within a reasonable doubt, the chain of custody of the microstamped shell from the person who bought it in the first place to the person who used it in a crime
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    it saddens and confuses me that politicians are pushing for gun-regulations that can be shown will be pretty useless, with just a little bit of research.

    but I guess Im still suffering from youthful naivete'

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