This is a discussion on Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg Jesus isn't a pacifist, He just had a different mission for his first visit than His second But you're right. There ...
I don't think intelligence necessairly has anything to do with people's emotional response. I agree with the article and "projection" is really common among the anti-gun group. For instance, my sister has a PhD and is anti-gun. When I ask her why she always says something like, "because guns kill". OMG, stop the presses! Guns can kill!
She has also mentioned the exact scenerio in the article...your neighbor could go off on you and shoot up the neighborhood.
There are some people who refuse to accept that there are good reasons to carry a gun. The article addresses a lot of their psychological issues and is very insightful. This doesn't mean people are "crazy", with the exception of Chucky Shumer, it just means they have fears that aren't based on reality.
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
As long as people don't want to revoke others' right to self defense, they can think whatever they wish.
I can't understand relying on the police, they will not be there in time to save you most or all of the time. They may get there for a hostage situation, or after it's over, but not before.
That being said, laws allowing self defense everywhere can't be vague or applied in different ways as Stand Your Ground seemingly can be.
Pacifists aren't a problem since they wouldn't support using force to prevent you from owning/carrying a firearm anyway.
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As far as the article goes, it has some interesting thoughts. It's nothing earthshattering, and the bias of the author shows clearly at times.
When I took a psyc 101 class one of the first things the prof told us is that if you ask how long you'll be in therapy they'll probably tell you 7 yrs and then promptly told us that most people can work out their problems on their own in about 7 yrs. Not knocking it for people with deeper problems, but that makes a lot of it suspect in my book. Additionally, this is a group that, literally, takes "taking things out of context" to a professional level. It seems the people that these techniques are aimed at have deeper issues that can't be addressed in a casual conversation or a simple article.
The true anti-gun people are a minority and not a great threat and not worth the time it takes to break through their irrational fears (unless they are already a part of your life - but that's an individual matter). What's really important is communicating with the majority of people who are not really interested one way or the other - the fence sitters; those are the ones that make a difference when it's time to vote. They aren't worried about the normal guy snapping, they're worried about the general nutcase, criminals, and accidental shootings; they don't need convincing about the dangers of the world, but they are content not thinking about it. All that's needed is a rational discussion and a bit of perspective and education. If your conversation includes yelling or nastiness, just quit wasting your time.
Many, if not most people are afraid or uncomfortable with what they do not know or understand. That’s an easy fix.
It has been my overwhelming experience that people who are anti-gun are driven to that position by emotions, not facts. Just look at the content of the information they get.
If I find myself engaged in a conversation with someone who is anti-gun, civil, and willing to allow me to detail some facts, listen to their concerns – and I really mean listen – so I can speak to those, it is a positive interaction. I’m not going to change their mind, but if I can give them pause or a desire to look further into the facts of our conversation, mission accomplished. Let me have an opportunity to speak with them again at a later date, or better yet, some other pro-gun person who will do the same with them, then this is good.
Alternately, there are those whose minds are made up and they don't want to be confused with the facts. With those, I avoid the topic altogether.
To most of these people, every one of us represents all of us, and because of that we are charged with the responsibility of being good ambassadors for all firearm owners.
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Good read but to be honest...I just don't worry about what the antis have to say.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Personally I don't think they put that much thought into it.
It is the same with those that say "I don't like motorcycles, they are dangerous" but yet have never ridden one or even sat on one. Many anti gun sentiments come and go like the tide it simply all depends on who is controlling the water.
Seems to me that it is THAT motive that we've got to resist, with the liberty haters, merely due to the fact that so many listeners are unthinking lemmings when it comes to doing what others suggest (aka, the "water controllers," as you point out). Can't afford to be complacent, with so many shots being taken at the Constitution and our ostensibly protected liberties.
Great read. Long but worth it. Thanks for posting!
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CCW9mm. I agree to a point. As others have stated though someone who is hardcore, died in the wool, truly anti gun for whatever reason I don't believe we will ever change there mind. I compare them to a yellow dog democrat. No matter what republican is running they would vote for a yellow dog instead.
The lemmings on the other hand as we agree on simply follow the ebb and flow of public opinion and there is a better than average chance that they would listen to reason and common sense, there's that word again, now whether they would hold to that commitment is another story. All it would take is one moment of Oooooooooooh look shiny, and they would follow someone else.
Yep complacency kills but I also think we have to go about it the right way so as not to end up in the same fate as California OC'ers who, in my opinion, pushed way to hard and although they wanted attention they got the wrong kind of attention and it cost them.
Please note no offense was intended to any yellow dog's with my comment.