9 Illinois counties to consider concealed carry (Illinois!!!!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenGoodLuck View Post
    Time to veto the governor!

    If the people are for something, then the leaders need to listen.
    That's the problem, the people are not clamoring for concealed carry.
    I'd rather be lucky than good any day

    There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.

    Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.

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    "Illinois is the last safe haven in the U.S. void of all those evil rednecks that think that carrying a firearm is their Constitutional Right. Its a great State to raise a family since you don't have to worry about
    guns at the mall, convenience stores and restaurants. After all everyone knows that statistics show that if you carry a gun, the bad guy will just take it away from you and kill you with it. Also, guns are inherently dangerous and just discharge for no reason killing and wounding innocent bystanders."

    ...."and it is just so "unsophisticated" to carry a gun for self defense. That's why we have police."

    these are the typical comments I received while arguing for a concealed carry law while I lived in Illinois and with friends still living there. Nothing has changed.

    If you think that Utopia is a place with nothing but corn and soybean fields as far as the eye can see....Illinois is your kind of place.

    If you want to excercise your Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms, I suggest moving across the border into Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Missouri, or Kentucky. Apparently common sense prevails just a few hundred miles in either direction.

    A concealed carry law will never happen in Illinois.....because the government there just does not give a hoot about what the people want......after all they are just sheep, and the politicians all know what
    is best for them.
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    Ahhhh, but it is "non-binding."

    It'll get a collective yawn from the Chi-town crowd and gather dust. It's nice, considering the "other" headlines, but I'm not certain it will really produce results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Part of the issue is that the city of Chicago is about 2.7 million in population. The state of Illinois runs around 12 million, but no where is there a larger concentration of people than in Chicago. Once you get out of the citys, Illinois is a fairly rural state with lots of famland and rolling prarie.
    The ruling mob is in Chicago and it pretty well dictates what the rest of the state does. The smallers citys of less than 100,000, which there are many of, just dont have much of a say there. While they may have good intentions, they will be overuled and outvoted.

    I dont see it changing any time soon.
    Sounds extremely familiar. :(
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    UPDATE to how the 'non-binding' vote went.

    WBEZ91.5
    November 8, 2012
    The Associated Press

    Residents in some rural counties have sent a message to Illinois lawmakers: Legalize the right to carry concealed weapons.

    Measures supporting concealed carry passed overwhelmingly in 10 counties where they were on Tuesday's ballot — Adams, Bond, Henry, McDonough, Mercer, Randolph, Rock Island, Schuyler, Stephenson and Warren.

    ...Snip... The Illinois House last year defeated a bill that would have legalized concealed weapons, but the vote was close.

    Gov. Pat Quinn has promised to veto any bill that would legalize concealed weapons and pushed for a ban on assault weapons earlier this year.

    10 Illinois counties say they want concealed carry

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    Measures supporting concealed carry passed overwhelmingly in 10 counties where they were on Tuesday's ballot — Adams, Bond, Henry, McDonough, Mercer, Randolph, Rock Island, Schuyler, Stephenson and Warren.

    ...Snip... The Illinois House last year defeated a bill that would have legalized concealed weapons, but the vote was close.

    Gov. Pat Quinn has promised to veto any bill that would legalize concealed weapons and pushed for a ban on assault weapons earlier this year.
    Good percentage, for vindication of the will of the citizens: 100% of those polled (nbr of counties, if not outright population).

    Seems to me the only thing that'll strip the covers of the hypocrisy of those refusing to listen to the people is a full and complete vote by the people of this question, in all 102 counties, not just in 9 or 10 of them. And even then, it could be ignored by "the machine."
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