Crying Wolf Over Guns – Big Mistake in 2012 (GunsAmerica Blog)

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    Crying Wolf Over Guns – Big Mistake in 2012 (GunsAmerica Blog)

    Crying Wolf Over Guns – Big Mistake in 2012

    This is a long, but very important, read. We have to be careful that we don't go crazy and drive more voters away from our camp. In the wake of several threads posted recently about buying up ammunition, guns being taken away, and other panicky posts, this blog offers a measured and logical approach to dealing with the next 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
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    Like constipation. Very much like it, in fact.
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    Like I said on another thread, I'm waiting for the near term hype to make ammo production ramp up more, so I can bag some even cheaper bulk 'fire sale' ammo in about `4 months (the 4 months timeframe is my best guess).

    The bigger thing you have to worry about right now is the 10 or slightly more states run by the Anti-Gun law makers who will continue to press (as they did in 2012) for stricter firearms regulations, such as CA's 'Bullet Button' legislation that almost went to a vote, and you know Gov Moonbeam would have signed it.
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    In the long run the shortages were good for guns. It got people to stock pile, it got people to buy guns that they wouldn't normally have bought, and it brought in a LOT of new shooters. Now what we need are family friendly competitions to keep that going! In the 1890s a shooting event brought out whole family's .Skeet, and bullseye games were very popular. Before WW11 it was Turkey shoots and American trap. By the 50s it was fast draw .

    What we need now is a reason for kids to want a new gun for Christmas instead of a video of a gun. We need a gun game that appeals to girls as much as guys. And is family friendly. We need a game so fun that even the presidents daughters will want a gun! DR

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    While Michigan is a very blue state, and we have that beyond ignorant permit to purchase a pistol crapola, we have WAY too many CCW and hunters here for some wingbat from Detroit to try and pull some Peoples Republic of Kalifornia laws. At least that's what I keep telling myself. And my guns. They get lonely without new friends.

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    Crying Wolf Over Guns – Big Mistake in 2012 (GunsAmerica Blog)

    As I have said in other threads, the expanding gun community is a very positive thing for those who value their 2A rights. In order to garner the support of this broad base, gun rights supporters are going to have to dissociate themselves from a lot of the ideological issues. Something that the author of this article obviously could not do. The author is so obviously hung up on other issues that he borders on incoherence and looses credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerranger View Post
    In the long run the shortages were good for guns. It got people to stock pile, it got people to buy guns that they wouldn't normally have bought, and it brought in a LOT of new shooters. Now what we need are family friendly competitions to keep that going! In the 1890s a shooting event brought out whole family's .Skeet, and bullseye games were very popular. Before WW11 it was Turkey shoots and American trap. By the 50s it was fast draw .

    What we need now is a reason for kids to want a new gun for Christmas instead of a video of a gun. We need a gun game that appeals to girls as much as guys. And is family friendly. We need a game so fun that even the presidents daughters will want a gun! DR
    I don't suppose a liberal shoot would qualify... Yes this is a joke
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    The losers in this most recent election don't get it. It wasn't about guns, or people not showing up. The absolutist, no-compromise positions on issues near and dear to people were what kept former Republicans at home, or voting for someone else.
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    I took the time to read it and all it makes me ponder is the fate of America. There are too many secret agendas and skewed beliefs that stray from our country's origins. We need to just get back to taking care of each other and our country, learning to find a grey area as opposed to left or right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The losers in this most recent election don't get it. It wasn't about guns, or people not showing up. The absolutist, no-compromise positions on issues near and dear to people were what kept former Republicans at home, or voting for someone else.
    That is why the Republican party might have won, if the candidate was Larry the Cable Guy. Too many elite old-money candidates and too few successful ones who know what it was like to decide whether to eat or buy gas to go to work. (not going political here, i'm just sayin')
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    I don't agree with all the authors political views but he is correct about crying wolf and adding to the gun craze/spending spree about to begin as well as adding to unfounded hype about guns being taken away.
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    From the article:

    "...we should not be crying wolf over guns today. Doing so in 2008 cost us a great deal of votes, especially women votes."
    Interesting take on the whole thing. I wonder if the author has any statistical or even anecdotal evidence to back that up.
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    I go to 12 step meetings,over the last year or so word has got out that I am into guns and shooting "Big Time",I have had several people approach me not only about what would be a good gun choice for SD etc.but have had numerous people especially women ask me if I can teach them to shoot and help them pick out a handgun.
    These are people that would have never considered it before,but now are realizing just how dangerous the world is getting especially with the Economy.The more people we get on our side the less likely that a gun ban will ever stand a chance of happening.
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    Personally, I disagree in many ways, for different reasons. I do not agree with some of the articles "assumptions" .... so ... if we don't agree on that , we won't agree on the conclusions based upon those assumptions either.

    However, one thing I LOVE about it...... is that to many people who would not otherwise think about it at all, suddenly ..... they are realizing .... the importance of the 2A to them. Some are panic buying, but that's OK .... as again, they woke up and realized how important the 2A is too them. The amount of sales also communicates that to the politicians ........ not only in Wash DC, but in their states and the far corners of the country. It has also been noticed and been in the news in UK, Canada, Austrailia and in Europe...

    A "conversation" is occurrring... quietly...... thru the increased sales of guns, ammo , etc.... every time the registers rings up a sale. I think it's sending a good message. The message is that the 2A is important to Americans, and they will stand up for it.... and even the quiet majority, aren't being quiet .... as reflected by the sales, more women getting CC licenses, etc.

    So, it causes some issues for maybe some of the more avid gun folks.... and ammo may be pricey for awhile or less available , or a gun may not be available.... but even given that, it is sending out quite a "message". And all I can say is ... thank goodness. What if someone was threatening a ban..... or pushing one.... and no one cared ?
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