Edward - if your views of your generation's beliefs are accurate as reported in this thread, the American experiment is dead. If our liberal indoctrination stations (public schools) have succeeded in brainwashing an entire generation that:
1. If you disagree with a policy position proffered by a black man, even if he is half white, you are a racist,
I dont personally agree with affirmative action it was needed at one point but I feel that time is near at end and that even now it could be altered to be less detrimental to white workers. As a group the opposition of affirmative action rarely has an argument outside of "its just not fair...to me." and are very easily thought of as racist, especialy since actual racists say the same thing. Not saying there aren't real reasons to oppose it or solid arguments out there, im just saying its rare to hear them. As for the inability to argue with a minority about anything without being labeled a racist, it basically comes from you (and me) paying for the sins of men we dont know/represent but happen to look like.
You missed the point. My point had nothing to do with affirmative action. For the last 5 years, we have been told by O's supporters that if we do not agree with him, we are racist. There has been no allowance for the fact that a good many people do not agree with many of O's policies but are not actually racist - they just don't agree with the policies. I suppose if two black people were running for president in opposing parties, using this thought process, everybody would be a racist. This argument proffered by O's supporters and not refuted by O himself, has done significant damage to race relations in this country.
2. If you feel that it is morally repugnant to legitimize the murder of a person so that its mother's lifestyle is not inconvenienced, you are immoral,
Well...yeah. It has nothing to do with "saving baby's" and everything to do with controlling the body's of other people. Its a where not a what issue, the woman doesn't want the fetus (fetus not baby.) dead she wants it out of her. This was decided long before we where born and is simply an accepted part of life.
Im a catholic (more or less.) and would never suggest to my wife or daughter to have one and i would lecture till i was blue in the face against it, but at the end of the day its not my call and it shouldn't be. Im not in favor of abortion, im in favor of freedom of choice. I could go on and on with this one but i truly didnt want this to happen.
The science was less clear in 1973 than it is today. In 1973, the "blob of tissue" or "its a fetus, not a baby" argument could not definitively be refuted by the then-existing science. With today's science, no honest scientist would tell you that "the product of conception" is not a human being. It may be a human being in an early stage, but there is no doubt that it is a human being. I too am all for freedom of choice - but I put the choice at a different time than your generation does. You have many choices that do not have to end in pregnancy. One of these is, as you argue, your "right" to free contraception. You got it - use it.
3. Has no ability to see that demanding free stuff (contraceptives in this case) from the government is redistribution of wealth, a euphemism for legalized theft in which money is taken from the taxpayers to buy the votes of those who, in a good many cases, don't pay income taxes,
Few people of my generation oppose the idea of redistribution of wealth, anarchist capitalism is dead. How much and from who is debatable but the concept isnt offensive. That being said the dema...I already said this one with someone else, look there please.
May you get rich and have 90% of your wealth taken as taxes. Think it can't happen? Take a look at the marginal tax rate at the end of the last Roosevelt era. The people that got hurt by this were not the rich, they just quit working, but the little guy. Ronald Regan was a good case in point. He was at the apex of his career at the time and he just did a few movies a year then quit working as it was not worth his time. This harmed the camera people, gaffers, caterers, etc., not the stars. Admittedly nobody is currently talking about a 90% marginal tax rate, but if the ruling party does not want to do spending cuts and the populace continues to demand deficit reduction, it has to come from somewhere.
4. Really believes that O's spending plan was more fiscally conservative than Romney's (yes, Romney is spelled with an "e", not an "a"),
Nobody thought it was better outside of a couple things,military spending, tax cuts for the 1% things like that it didn't come down to who had the better economic plan, it came down to a sound economic plan or abortion,gay rights,healthcare and the like and we all know who won.
As for the spelling error, spellchecker not always perfect and i dont always check, meh.
God only knows how we are going to pay for all this social engineering. You are right, O won. That does not mean we will be able to support his agenda fiscally now or after he is gone.
we have raised an entire generation of people that cannot think for themselves and can only parrot what their indoctrinators want them to think. In short- America is screwed!!! Your description of your generation tells us that they are ready to be led by a charismatic leader straight to a dictatorship. That is the logical end of the descriptions you provided.
So if we dont think the way you tell us to, we cant think for ourselves? We fundamentally disagree, that's not parroting or being uninformed its just a disagreement. The argument of "you disagree with me, you must be stupid." is never a good one.
I am not telling you what to think. I am only observing that, per your assertion, the vast majority of your generation thinks alike. I can tell you from my education and that my kids just received, that I was taught HOW to think and the schools have tried their dead-level best to tell my kids WHAT to think without giving them the framework to know how to think. Thank God that my wife and I have rectified that, at least with our kids. I have seen many from your generation state flatly that O has spent less than any other president in the last 100 years. This is not a statement coming from an informed group of people - regardless of how they view themselves.
Edward - i have a side question. On what does your generation base it's moral code? You say that Romney's position on several social issues is immoral. What is the standard you use to make that determination? I am just curious.
The moral code of "if it doesn't hurt me I don't care." my generation could aptly summed up in one word, apathetic. Personal freedoms are paramount, all else comes second.
Thank you for clearing this up for me. It tells me a lot about the upcoming generation. BTW - if y'all hold personal freedoms so dearly, how can you say that redistribution of the wealth is OK?
As to your original assertion in your OP, I concur that we need a broad spectrum of the population to tell the government to leave our guns alone. I would go further and say that I would prefer that the government, in general, leave us alone and go back to its Constitutional duties, but I am aware, from you above posts, that you are not in agreement with this.
For the record, I have not called you a troll and I don't think you are. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss your generation with you. I did not bring up the subjects in our discussion, but am perfectly willing to discuss them.