Why Japanese-style Gun Control Simply CANNOT Be Successfully Implemented In The US

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    Why Japanese-style Gun Control Simply CANNOT Be Successfully Implemented In The US

    by Neale Osborn

    Feudal Japan made possessing a sword without membership in the Samurai class a death penalty offense. Today, Japan has some of the lowest crime rates and some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. And the Victim Disarmament crowd often espouses adopting the Japanese-style laws to "put a stop to crime and violence" here in America. Since these people tend to be the same people who claim to support individual rights, I thought it would be good to see WHAT it is they are supporting. So, let us look at the socity that the victim disarmament groups hold up as the prime example of why we, in America, need to ban guns "for our own good". Japan.

    ......There is no right to bear arms in Japan. In practical terms, there is no right to privacy against police searches. Other Western-style rights designed to protect citizens from a police state are also non-existent or feeble in Japan.

    ......We, in America, do NOT, as a rule accept this concept of government being our infallible boss. Upon reading the entire article linked, and following many of the included links in said article, I can see no way to successfully implement Japanese-style gun control methods in America. And it CERTAINLY cannot be done if any shred of the Bill of Rights remains intact. Not that I, of course, have any desire to do so!



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    They attacked, they lost. No further discussion necessary as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore, the entire country and all islands around it should either be US states or territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    They attacked, they lost. No further discussion necessary as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore, the entire country and all islands around it should either be US states or territory.
    My father-in-law, who took a bullet in the butt invading Okinawa, would probably agree. He saw too many friends die in that effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    They attacked, they lost. No further discussion necessary as far as I'm concerned. Furthermore, the entire country and all islands around it should either be US states or territory.
    ????? Really, was the war the Japanese people's will or that of an Emperor lead by delusional military dictators? If the general populace was armed maybe they could have stopped the threat before we had to annihilate them. Only bad things come from any government that disarms its people.

    We got all we wanted and needed from thier surrender with SOFA. It would do us no good to occupie thier land. There way of life and philosophy is too foreign to us. Plus we can hardly manage what we arready have.

    While I was not alive durring the war I have served and was stationed in Japan. I have 2 children from my wife a Japanesse citizen I meet while their. I can understand your disdain and feelings from the war but all nations and the world would be a better place if the right to bear arms were guaranteed and universal.

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    Japan is a nation with the history of people not being lawless and following the rules. The general populace has blindly allowed themselves to be ruled over for centuries.

    Their past is not ours. Their behaviors, are not the same as Americans. Generations being bred to be obedient, compared to Americans being taught to be independent makes a big difference. I've read articles in recent times where the Japanese public are afraid of themselves owning firearms. We just have people who are afraid of others having guns. A rather large distinction.

    The Japanese also have the highest suicide rate in the world. Do we want more of our citizens taking their own lives too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFury View Post
    Japan is a nation with the history of people not being lawless and following the rules. The general populace has blindly allowed themselves to be ruled over for centuries.

    Their past is not ours. Their behaviors, are not the same as Americans. Generations being bred to be obedient, compared to Americans being taught to be independent makes a big difference. I've read articles in recent times where the Japanese public are afraid of themselves owning firearms. We just have people who are afraid of others having guns. A rather large distinction.

    The Japanese also have the highest suicide rate in the world. Do we want more of our citizens taking their own lives too?
    Following rules and not being lawless?? Better hit the history.
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    I spent a total of 5 years in Japan & Okinawa. Here's some of the differences:

    Police can hold you for up to 14 days without charging you.
    There's no "police brutality" statute.
    They have a 99% conviction rate. They don't take you to trial unless they have a near slam-dunk case.
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    500 years ago, my Scottish Highlander ancestors were rolling bones in the mud to predict a future with no sense of civilization, written language or culture. At the same time, the Japanese were already architects, poets, musicians, scientists & historians. And their culture had been operating at an advanced level for a thousand years before THAT! I don't like their current system, but it's not my culture. As for guns, they invented the powder, but sure got left behind...since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost tracker View Post
    500 years ago, my Scottish Highlander ancestors were rolling bones in the mud to predict a future with no sense of civilization, written language or culture. At the same time, the Japanese were already architects, poets, musicians, scientists & historians. And their culture had been operating at an advanced level for a thousand years before THAT! I don't like their current system, but it's not my culture. As for guns, they invented the powder, but sure got left behind...since then.
    I'm pretty sure the Chinese invented gun powder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Following rules and not being lawless?? Better hit the history.
    The general populace has traditionally followed their ruler. The violence between rulers, which vary by title, has been nothing short of brutal. Japanese citizenry have been suppressed by and large for longer than the North America has been known.

    The internal power struggles in Asia in general make internal conflicts we have had in the US look like nothing.

    Actually, the history of the people of Japan is much like European history in that the general populace often were the pawns of the lords. It's the basic workings of the feudal system that has been used in many regions since the dawn of civilization.

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