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    Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    What arms does the 2nd Amendment allow an American to own in your opinion.
    Last edited by farronwolf; October 10th, 2006 at 11:08 PM.
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    Since the poll didn't appear, I will simply respond with: complete and total. There is no description or limitation written in the text, therefore, nothing should be eliminated.

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    I agree , the 2nd ammend. was so the people could not fear the govt. controlling them.
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    The poll did appear for me, and as the first voter my position is in line with "shall not infringe"..

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    If you are not serving time / are in a controlled area, you should be able to own, carry, safely use whatever you damn want.

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    I'm willing to allow government to regulate the ownership of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, but thats about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I'm willing to allow government to regulate the ownership of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, but thats about it.
    I have to agree with that.
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    The second amendment doesn't limit any arms. Laws passed later do the limiting.

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    Abrahams tank and a B-2 that is getting close to my threshold
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    Abrahams tank
    Actually, it's the Abrams tank, named for General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr., former U.S. Army Chief of Staff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Crunch View Post
    Actually, it's the Abrams tank, named for General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr., former U.S. Army Chief of Staff.
    Sorry, well I never said I could spell or add. Other than that I'm fairly intelligent
    "[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons.
    They are left in full possession of them."

    Zacharia Johnson (speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention,25 June 1778)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." ~Alexander Hamilton

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    Hummm, we should be able to have whatever our government has, the 2nd amendment is in place to fight them, if the need arises. But I also feel the government shouldn't have things to, like WMD, chemical weapons, nukes, etc. but that will never happen.
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    I believe the 2nd amendment infers the right to any military type equipment a citizen would want to own. Be that a M249 SAW, a cruise missile, or a destroyer.

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    I'm with Zundfolge. I'll let them regulate the NBC weapons. In the meantime, I want my 155mm Howitzer. lol j/k

    Look at Switzerland for some interesting gun laws. Every male has obligatory military service at age 18. They stay in the reserves until, IIRC, the age of 55. Each male is issued their country's standard battle rifle to keep in their home. AND!!!!!! Any citizen, barring criminal record, can own and operate any piece of military hardware. So, who wants to park an F-16 in their barn?

    And guess what Switzerland's home invasion and violent crime rates are?
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    I'm fine with limiting access to fissionable materials.

    The 2nd amendment doesn't have a 'firepower' limit.

    Is anyone here really concerned with gang banger's doing a drive-by with a howitzer or an M60? Just not going to happen, folks.
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