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A gun organization saying anything after a shooting would just show a lack of class. They were wrong to do it after Columbine and they're right not to do it now. Anyway anti gun people are jumping in every direction right now, it's better for them to take time and be careful. Look at all the people looking foolish right now because they're speaking before all the facts are outQuote:
Originally Posted by dbglock
They have been doing what they do for a really long time, and quite effectively I might add. I still have all my guns and ammo, can go more today if i so choose, not overly concerned as of today at 2:20 pm 12/17/12.Quote:
I am disappointed in the NRA, they have the opportunity to take a leadership role in solving this massive problem and yet they do nothing
Don't you think it would be wiser to have all facts determined by an investigation and maybe allow parents to bury dead children before making moves and issuing bold and possibly foolish statements? I'm glad the NRA isn't shooting from the hip on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogien
With all of the bad reporting out there. I can understand. Lets get the facts. Why are the politicans even talking about control now? They should still be grieving?
I have watched so much one sided news about the lefts view that I am sick of it. Obama is great..., no, he is not. Guns kill..., no they don't. Only crazy people want guns...., wrong again.
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Originally Posted by dben002
I would consider their silence a sort of "combat patience," waiting for the right time to address the issue/attacks. Deactivating their FB page keeps them from unwanted "hate posts" and allows people to focus on the victims and their families, and not on the gun/no gun controversy. Just MHO.
They are right to keep quiet and mourn like everyone else except for the grandstanding politicians who make me sick. They don't need to be debating things publicly right now, everyones focus should be on helping those families.
I don't know about everyone else but I'm still in disbelief of what happened. I'm only about 20 minutes away and everyone around has heavy hearts. Right now isn't the time to be debating what was the cause and what should or should not be done.
We all knew, or should have known that this was a distinct possibility, maybe a probability, and the day would come when something like this would happen, again. So, no, I am not shocked or in disbelief. I am sad and angry at the perp and those who refuse to see danger looming, and Evil for what it is. I have a letter to my representatives in the works right now, as should we all.
We really need to nip this in the bud. We as a nation are standing at a 2nd Amendment crossroad right now. How we deal with this shooting and the current calls for yet more restrictions, will set the path we travel for the next generation at least. Down one path lies more and tighter gun control laws and infringements. Down the other lies the possibility of finding and correcting the flaws in our culture that produce warped and damaged individuals. The current battle in this war is to guide our nation down the path that has a chance of correcting our true problems. With the current ascendant popularity of firearms in this country it should be doable. All we need do is to speak with one voice, in unity, a grassroots voice asserting our rights and calling for proper action to get at the root causes of this type of behavior. I believe the causes are rooted in the lack of ethical and moral standards along with a general unwillingness to educate ourselves and take responsibility for our government. I mean responsibility not as accepting blame or fault but in its literal sense of "ability to respond".
There are other impediments to correcting our social ills, not the least of which is the state of our economy and the need for two-income households. I believe I'll save that topic for its own thread however.
The NRA..It rolls off the tongue so easily. They are NOT the cure all for 2A advocacy.
They have in the past been a great help but I fear some of their teeth are beginning to show signs of age.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. There are other groups AND...
I prefer the good 'Ol US paper mail when writing your representatives. Email is way too easy to just delete.
Thousands upon thousands of paper letters flooding a senator's or reps office has far more impact.
Up to this point the NRA and "other" pro 2A groups are doing the right thing. The emotional fervor of this country is running in overdrive.
Attempting a logical reasonable discussion at this time is impossible as so many are blinded by the emotion. All normal.
Now; the fight takes place in the ring; NOT in the rhetoric leading up to the fight.
No tank tops Bob. Those can be classified as wife beaters if their white in color and can and will be bannedQuote:
Originally Posted by accessbob
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Originally Posted by glockman10mm
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Bluto: Hey! What's all this laying around stuff? Why are you all still laying around here for?
Stork: What the hell are we supposed to do, ya moron? We're all expelled. There's nothing to fight for anymore.
D-Day: [to Bluto] Let it go. War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard of something to say]
Bluto: The tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[Bluto runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the heck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my
butt from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these buffoons. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: [stands up] Yeah, I agree. Let's go get 'em.
Boon: Let's do it.
Bluto: [shouting] "Let's do it"!
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Guys, we have a lot of very intelligent people on our side, lawyers, legislators: lets let them try and take care of business.
There is a lot of compelling facts FOR firearms, lets let them use these facts.
The Second Amendment isn't dead,........yet.
Keep the faith.
Anything the NRA says right now will be a rallying cry for the opposition. They also showed restraint after Aurora, just expressing sympathy for the victims and their families. I don't have a problem with that approach. The NRA's work is being done by the Bloomberg's and Obama's right now. Those two are doing more to solidify the pro 2A lobby than anyone else right now.
Bloomberg....what an idiot. We should have seen this coming when he took Big Gulps away from New Yorkers'.....Quote:
The NRA's work is being done by the Bloomberg's and Obama's right now. Those two are doing more to solidify the pro 2A lobby than anyone else right now.
I'm the one who started this thread.
I personally am loosing respect for the NRA over this. I think they should have sent their condolences to the victims and families and said we are going to work with the president to help find ways to keep guns from getting in the hands of mentally ill and criminals. Something like that anyway. I'm sure it could be polished.
I'm a life member and fine it extremely disrespectful to the families that they have not said anything.