This is a discussion on "You won't take my guns!!!" within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by dean1818 I know some folks in the UK who are STILL amazed how fast the bans occured.... THEY WERE SURE THAT IT ...
Essentially, the liberty-haters are attempting to redefine the meaning of the word "assault" in this regard. If they succeed in their attempts tearing things down, swooping up everything "automatic" (whether merely semi-auto or not) into the offending list, then essentially anything that can be used in a criminal "assault" on others will be an "assault weapon."
Hopefully "liberty hater" won't be a term that gets redefined anytime soon. It is what it is. And they are who they are. Can't hide the stripes that easily. Grrr-rrrrr.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
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I agree with the above post...everybody needs to stick together. "Technically" a new AWB won't affect me as I don't have an AR and no need for hi-cap magazines...but I'm still against it for what it represents. Once they realize they've got the ball rolling downhill they won't stop. Imagine this scenario that I feel is frighteningly realistic:
Next year...new AWB (pretty much 100% chance on that). However they'll have grandfathering to "throw us a bone".
A bit down the road (maybe a year or two) when they realize the AWB hasn't helped they'll take away the grandfathering...limited amount of time to turn in "assault weapons"
After further futility they'll go after handguns...again probably with some grandfathering to "ease the pain"
Again...crime stays the same. Must still be a gun problem right? Couldn't be a societal problem! So no more handguns...surely that'll fix society's woes.
Then the same pattern with hunting rifles and shotguns.
I'll admit I used to be the type that didn't really pay attention to gun laws if they didn't affect me...but this is different. The stupidity and flat out wrong information being spewed by the media is disgusting.
I saw the following on Facebook yesterday-"we need to ban automatic weapons (already did for all intents and purposes)...they are weapons of mass destruction. Anybody who has one is a terrorist (you just can't make up ignorance like that!)
That's what we're up against...a national smear campaign against all gun owners with no signs of letting up soon.
Absolutley
Libtard alert
The lives of these victims are only more meaningful to you becausebtheynadvance your sick agenda,
Those of us who actually care mourn the loss of all equally,
Where are you on the slaughter of 60-70 innocents each month in Cook County, how come you are just showing up now?
Turn in your car, or you are complicit in the deaths of thousands.
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The gun grab may indeed come based on the rapid decline and demise of our increasingly socialistic government.
There are no easy answers and most answers would require great courage and sacrifice personally as well as corporately. However, one thing is for sure. There is strength in numbers. Especially numbers that take the high ground and are willing to stand against forces that would seek to grab not only guns, but our very freedom as well.
Can the government arrest and wearhouse 5 to 10 million people who are willing to pay the price for freedom and stand against a tyrannical government? I think that can not be done. We have a problem keeping the criminals under lock and key, much less citizens that just desire to live in peace.
If several million drew a line in the sand and did say, as that red headed Virginian, “Give me liberty or give me death”….we then gentlemen, have a game changer. Whether or not America, as a nation, still carries that spirit that birth her as the home of the brave and that kind of courage may yet be seen.
I for one, pray it never comes to that, but I am an old combat Marine who has lived the best part of his life to the fullest. I would gladly step forward to stand with a multitude of likeminded men who value freedom over chains of bondage. It was for a reason that Thomas Jefferson said: “Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.”
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There are far more imaginative ways for Congress to make life miserable for gun owners than taking guns.
e.g., The big corporation defense hawks can jump on a bill to buy all the .223 manufactured, and limit imports.
Check mate. They can justify it as stockpiling for military and police necessity, reducing the trade deficit, and then say with a straight face that they are pro-2A and pro-defense, and therefore they refuse to allow cuts in the defense dept. ammo budget.
There are plenty of more imaginative ways.
"Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war."
John Adams. Second President of the United States.
For the second time, absolutely,
It either reading comphrehension or a dictionary, get one.
BTW, according to the state of Arizona( and many others), there is no such thing as an automobile accident. Blame is assigned, divided and penalties assesed.
The use of an automobile is purposeful.
No difference between gun deaths, car deaths, 5gal bucket deaths, baseball bat deaths, whatever.
It is the intent of the operator.
You may or may not get your gun ban, you may or may not collect the guns, but we all know you want to.
You cannot lull me into complacency however with your calm down and line up against the wall attitude. Go sell it to the sheep. Those dummies are buying, try the huffington post.
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Dude you have got to be kidding me. The stated goal of the gun controllers is to save lives, to prevent pointless deaths. The AWB is PROVEN to have NO effect on the mortality rate in this country. So YES, it is perfectly valid, because it puts their idiotic nonsense into perspective. They are focusing on something that people have a very low risk for meeting their end from, and they should be called to task for it. Wake up.
As someone living in a state with some of the strictest gun laws in the country, what I find telling is this: those states with lax gun laws tend to have less gun crime than states with strict laws. Hmmm, wonder why?
You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt
You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt