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    Welcome to the Socialist States of America

    Does anyone really think that when/if our 2A rights are taken away that it will stop there? I don't. Countries such as Nazi Germany, China, North Korea, and the USSR, all started with the disarming of the population. Once you move the means to fight back you become a servant of the government. The 2A is only the beginning.
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    History has already shown us what happens after the population is disarmed.
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    None of those countries started WITH a constitution (like ours), a majority of conservatives (too bad they all didn't vote), and 300 million firearms 'in stock'.
    We'll see what happens...
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    Free speech is next. They have been trying to silence talk radio for years, then they censor the Mohammed cartoons, etc. The First Amendment stand in their way of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    None of those countries started WITH a constitution (like ours), a majority of conservatives (too bad they all didn't vote), and 300 million firearms 'in stock'.
    We'll see what happens...
    I agree...

    Too bad so many of them have their keesters firmly planted on the couch instead of getting out and voting...

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    Oh gosh, don't be hyperbolic. Look, Canada is way worse on these rights. Gun rights are lower. Free speech rights are lower (in some ways). But we're not a Stalin-esque hellhole. The real gradient of 'risk' is much less bad than people talk about. There's a realistic worst-case scenario, and then there's working yourself into a frantic tizzy. Be wise about your worries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRick View Post
    Does anyone really think that when/if our 2A rights are taken away that it will stop there? I don't. Countries such as Nazi Germany, China, North Korea, and the USSR, all started with the disarming of the population. Once you move the means to fight back you become a servant of the government. The 2A is only the beginning.
    Oh please..................... You must be a "doomsday prepper"........

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    I've been saying this for years. History is rife with examples but we don't learn. Never will. Those who think otherwise are damn naive and not worth the breath to discuss.

    His comment doesn't make him a "doomsday prepper" unless he's hunkered down Friday. But it does make you part of the naive crowd.

    He's a realist and obviously understand history.
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    It won't happen overnight, but your rights are eroding away like the Grand Canyon. You can't do anything without the governments permission, anymore. You need a permit for everything. Try to do something on your own land without a permit and see what happens. The government knows that it knows better than you do. In every single aspect of your life. It's not starting with guns. Guns are just part of the equation. It's been in the making for a long time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus222 View Post
    It won't happen overnight, but your rights are eroding away like the Grand Canyon. You can't do anything without the governments permission, anymore. You need a permit for everything. Try to do something on your own land without a permit and see what happens. The government knows that it knows better than you do. In every single aspect of your life. It's not starting with guns. Guns are just part of the equation. It's been in the making for a long time now.
    Yes it is a generational progression. Fascists, socialists and communists all knew that. History showed us in words and deeds. T won't be tomorrow or next year.. But down the road. Boiling the frog.

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    Get complacent and it is easy to lose. To steal a quote - "Stay thirsty my friends."
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    An overwhelming majority of the United States wants to continue borrowing from other people (who aren't even born yet) to subsidize government wealth redistribution today.

    Congratulations, you're already IN the United Socialist States of America.
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    I'd rather be lucky than good any day

    There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.

    Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.

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    what we need is an alien invasion or zombie Apocalypse to take the government and peoples minds off of this stuff for a year or so... then come back and rebuild with a proper Country..

    those guns will come in handy during such a crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotus222 View Post
    It won't happen overnight, but your rights are eroding away like the Grand Canyon. You can't do anything without the governments permission, anymore. You need a permit for everything. Try to do something on your own land without a permit and see what happens. The government knows that it knows better than you do. In every single aspect of your life. It's not starting with guns. Guns are just part of the equation. It's been in the making for a long time now.
    To be honest, the Grand Canyon was created by erosion. That wha makes it so great
    Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
    And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”

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