Increasing Police Presence in our Schools
This is a discussion on Increasing Police Presence in our Schools within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; According to a Gallup poll, taken on Wednesday (Dec. 18th) which was before the NRA press conference, 87% of Americans believe that increased police presence ...
December 21st, 2012 06:48 PM
Increasing Police Presence in our Schools
According to a Gallup poll, taken on Wednesday (Dec. 18th) which was before the NRA press conference, 87% of Americans believe that increased police presence in our schools would be at least somewhat effective (53% -- majority -- indicated "very" effective) in preventing mass shootings at schools. Interesting results also on assault and semi-automatic weapons ban.
See the poll results to these and other questions here:
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December 21st, 2012 06:48 PM
December 21st, 2012 09:48 PM
If you had asked the libs 2 weeks ago if police in schools was a good idea they would have said yes...now that the NRA has said it, they will declare it stupid.
In my responses online, I have said, "If something happens at a school who do you call? Armed Police. How can it be better to call them to come after something happens rather than have them there before it does?" Crickets. They just disagree with it because the NRA suggested it.
They also like to point out "What about the malls, parks, parking lots, etc? Can't have Police in all of those places." My response: "We are adults and WE are responsible for the safety of ourselves and our kids out in public. If you CHOOSE not to carry, then that is a free choice you have made knowing the risks in society. At school, the kids don't have a choice, they don't have us there, and they can't protect themselves."
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December 21st, 2012 09:52 PM
keep fighting the good fight, brother
Originally Posted by BugDude
December 21st, 2012 09:55 PM
We have had a Palm Beach County school district police department and sworn officers stationed within the schools as long as I can remember. I have lived in the county for the past 33 years. Has it helped? Yes, we have had many students caught attempting to take illegal items into the several of the High Schools and many of the illegal items were weapons.
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December 22nd, 2012 04:42 AM
Here in North Idaho, pretty much all of the schools have an armed officer at school with an office 5 days a week. I remember back in high school the school officer's desk was right up front near the principal's. Never thought anything of it, in fact I thought all schools had that haha. No shootings at schools around here that I can recall.
December 22nd, 2012 05:06 AM
The DIRTY LITTLE SECRETE - Rich 'special' school districts already have Cops/Sheriffs.......
In my example (for this post), this is a place where 90% of the 'Progressivly Political' Parents would be Anti Gun (except they are so rich they either 'Buy' a CC License with(actually contribute to the PAC and wow, they are the rare person who gets the right to carry a CC license here) the Local Sherrifs, or have personal security for them).
Same here in one of the highest income Zip Codes of the USA, bit money High School distict ...... Juts 'one' Uniformed Man or Lady, in Uniform (the Progressives that teach at this school hate it, I might add.... they are all Anti-somthing......... but, especially 'Authority' and Anti-Gun. They have been well programmed). They are meerly sheeple...........
Anyway, the Lady Sheriff or Local PD (or Man Police Dude), does not even need to be there all day. They make a Big Presence to Parents and Students, come and go, and when they are not there, there is always a unit that is within minutes away from the property, who has communication with the administrators.
However (using Third World Anti-Criminal/Terriorist thinking..........) This is still a failed policy............ Some of those Teachers and Administrators should be Armed and Carry.
All I will say is, this is a $$$$$$ Parents who own the childern district (one of the highest in the USA). The kids could be potential targets for kidnapping, let alone simple gun violance.
I still do not get the Parents I talk to (and some of them are well worth over $100 Mil - no joke) and the are Progressive Anti-Gun......
Well, they are the same stupid people who fund the Politicians and the Media.
Nothing wrong with changing 'Gun Free Zones/Schools' back into 'Guess if there is a Defensive Gun amungst us Zone'.
December 22nd, 2012 05:13 AM
I do advocate armed security personnel in schools but do not advocate they be the police. I advocate that these personnel be employees(hired/fired) of the school districts. However I believe their salaries should be paid by the government. Due to the "wars" we are/have been involved in there is an abundance of qualified people for such a job. Military personnel due to their serving our country no longer have a place of employment. This would help solve two problems.
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--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
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and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
December 22nd, 2012 07:01 AM
I'm pretty sure that most Middle Schools and High Schools have "Resource Officers",but like a Techer Friend pointed out the Elementary Schools don't have them due to the less likely chance of any problems in K-6.
Originally Posted by pacman
I was actually talking to a lady that IMHO would never carry a Concealed Handgun and used to work in School Libraries,,but when the Sandy Hook Massacre came up in our conversation and I said the Principal is a Hero but if she had been armed could very likely have stopped him before anybody was killed.She said Absolutely and if she wasn't retired she would have no problem carrying a gun in school if they trained any Teachers that wanted to Carry a Firearm.
I couldn't believe that we actually agreed that the Guns weren't the problem.There is hope for some people
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December 22nd, 2012 07:18 AM
We have armed "Resource Officers" in the Middle and High Schools. My g.son told me that just before he graduated they cut the
number from two to one at his school. Knowing the size of that campus one is totally inadequate. I have the same opinion as
dukamighty concerning the Principal but hindsight is always 20/20.
I've learned that a recent proposal ( w/o knowing every detail ) to allow school employees with CWP and some extensive training.
expert marksman qualification, etc to carry in school. Something our State Legislators will vote on next session. This will be the
second attempt of a similar plan I'm told.
December 22nd, 2012 08:02 AM
Tread lightly on this topic.
As ANY further restrictions in gun laws move us all down that slippery slope, so does armed professional protection at schools.
Next will be (other) areas fed, state and local govs consider high risk areas.
At the end of this will be many (no-carry) places since it will be deemed the public at large is well protected in these areas.
"When those who are governed do too little, those who govern can, and will, do too much." Ronald Reagan
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December 22nd, 2012 08:18 AM
Whether you make it police or an armed security company or what-have-you, their salaries will be paid by tax dollars (which I am fine with, just pointing that out). I have thought along the same lines you are talking about here... even just one person per school across the country creates a decent amount of new jobs, thusly increasing the tax base, which is the real way to solve the debt issue.
Originally Posted by Crowman
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
December 22nd, 2012 08:35 AM
Fewer gun free zones, not more will contribute to the solution.
" But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself... Baa." Col. Dave Grossman on Sheep and Sheepdogs.
December 22nd, 2012 08:44 AM
Tennessee is considering allowing the various school systems to make their own decision on having armed faculty members.
We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. -
December 22nd, 2012 10:08 AM
What about all the school shootings in UT?
Oh wait a minute, permit holders can already carry in those schools...guess that CAN help.
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December 22nd, 2012 10:10 AM
Now....I'm for LE presence in schools......give a cop a desk in a closet .......not arming any teachers.
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