This is a discussion on Wayne LaPierre??? within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; No one can satisfy everyone....
No one can satisfy everyone.
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First of all I'm not sure why you "seem" to be getting upset, this is a simple internet debate! Second, up to now unless I missed it, you have not ask me a question but I will answer the one you just ask in a monent. But first you don't beleive the constitution is evolving then I'm not sure there is any real reason for conversation, its fact, its history!
Here goes with your questions...
"then do you agree that it is alright to make a law limiting your right to own a gun, hi cap mag, or style? Its either yes or no, simple question"
If I am limited to one word then YES... if I can have 2 words then HELLLL YESSSSSS! I don't not think every citizen sound be able to own any fire arm they choose.
Now you get the same one word yes or no answer. Do you believe mental ill people, hardened crimials, illegal aliens sould be able to legally own ANY type or kind of they choose?
There are laws on the books already that are meant to achieve what you want, but they don't work. So, they ought to be repealed because they are a burden on lawful people.
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"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
However, the question you asked me cannot be answered in a simple yes or no, because you have clumped, 2 different types covered by different laws and protections under the same umbrella.
I am not sure if this was because of ignorrance on your part or a cunning attempt to confuse the issue.
But to answer your question, criminals and illegal aliens are already banned by the law from purchasing firearms, and I agree with that.
Mental health disclosure is protected by law for the most part. But I think someone who has an extensive mental health record should be required to provide the information before buying a firearm, or if you have been institutionalized for mental health, I think that should be a part of your background record for the purposes of buying a firearm.
" Blessed is that man, who when facing death, thinks only of his front sight"
LaPierre is a competent and articulate man but he is not a great public speaker. He was constantly looking down and reading from his script and his presentation lacked fluidity. It was cold and sterile. LaPierre needed to be more animate so his actions would match the zeal of his words. As it is, the NRA appears to be without warmth and sincerity in spite of the child-saving wishes it espouses through its words.
If we lived in a world where content was assessed in a vacum then the weight of LaPierre's words would potentially have the ability to affect all audiences just the same. As it is, however, we live in a superficial world where image reigns. Its not a coincidence that all of your pop stars reflect youth and vibrance. Its not a coincidence that everyone on T.V. is attractive. Polls even suggest that women favor more attractive candidates. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe Gore got a bump in the polls (no pun intended) when he appeared on a Rolling Stone cover with a bulge in his pants. For days it was a topic on talk shows and pop media. Out of all of the important topics to discuss concerning the presidential race, Gore's appearance took center stage.
As for LaPierre's speech, overall, I think it is a good speech. I think he makes good points about video games but as someone on the forum has pointed out before, it robs individuals of responsibility and is no different than the opposing side blaming guns. Its not video games and or guns causing these horrific acts of tragedy, its evil people - some of whom are acting out in mental illness.
Was reading through this thread and would like to ask you a question . Could you be so kind as to tell me how and what you would have said that would have been so much better than Mr. LaPierre did ?
Not trying to be a smart Alec , but curious as to how you would have handled it , thank you , Kenneth
"A hyphenated American is not an American at all.
Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul.
Our allegiance must be purely to the United States.
We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance."
Theodore Roosevelt... 1915
Back in 1995 when Mr. LaPierre was Vice-President of the NRA, he made the "Jack-booted thug" comparison to the ATF that upset a lot of people - life member President Bush resigned his membership as a result. At the time, I thought that the ATF had been painted with a too thick of brush, but now 17 years later I see where he was very accurate with his assessment. He has a tough job, but he cannot make everybody happy, and those that get ticked off at him aren't important anyway. I trust his judgement.