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    Handguns, Handguns, Handguns!!

    60% of murders in the USA are committed with handguns.

    2% with rifles.

    2% with shotguns.

    Clearly, the statistics show where the focus should be with regards to gun laws.

    And yet, for some odd reason, the focus is on rifles.

    Sure, its because of the mass-shootings. But are we truly that blind to the daily killings in our communities?

    Rifles & shotguns....are NOT the problem!!! So why the focus on them????

    Why isn't the NRA and other gun groups driving these statistics through the skulls of legislators who want more gun laws?

    Seems soooo basic. Sooo simple. And yet nobody seems to get it.

    Ugg...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_cri...rica#Homicides


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    "Why isn't the NRA and other gun groups driving these statistics through the skulls of legislators who want more gun laws?"

    They do, but there's nothing inside to slow it down to make sense.
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    Why aint Cars, Trucks or veicals on the chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    "Why isn't the NRA and other gun groups driving these statistics through the skulls of legislators who want more gun laws?"

    They do, but there's nothing inside to slow it down to make sense.
    I am not convinced of that.

    I have NEVER heard the NRA talk about this fact.

    And as ironic as it may seem, the only time I heard this fact repeated was by Obama during the 3rd debate.

    Irony to the max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogdaddy View Post
    Why aint Cars, Trucks or veicals on the chart

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    cause they arent deadly weapons used to intentionally kill people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pythius View Post
    Clearly, the statistics show where the focus should be with regards to gun laws.
    How about let's stay focused on the criminals, not the tool. The tool didn't do anything on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pythius
    cause they arent deadly weapons used to intentionally kill people.
    Tell that to the surviving family members of the hundreds of people killed by repeat offending drunk drivers.
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    Re: Handguns, Handguns, Handguns!!

    Why, you're absolutely right!

    Soooooo, let's ban handguns! And of course, once we do that... No need for Ccw!

    Perfect! Got any more fodder for the anti movement?

    Bring it! I'm sure they could use a few more great ideas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    Why, you're absolutely right!

    Soooooo, let's ban handguns! And of course, once we do that... No need for Ccw!

    Perfect! Got any more fodder for the anti movement?

    Bring it! I'm sure they could use a few more great ideas!
    I don't want to ban handguns.

    I'd just like to hear the facts that I presented in the OP, repeated at least once on the damn media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmy40 View Post
    Tell that to the surviving family members of the hundreds of people killed by repeat offending drunk drivers.
    I'd be happy to. 99.9% of car accident deaths are unintentional homicides.

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    Re: Handguns, Handguns, Handguns!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pythius View Post

    Rifles & shotguns....are NOT the problem!!! So why the focus on them????

    Why isn't the NRA and other gun groups driving these statistics through the skulls of legislators who want more gun laws?
    The focus is quite simply because of the negative press against semi-automatic rifles right now.

    The reason that the NRA doesn't bring up handguns is because they don't want more restrictions on them either. They don't want to fight a war on 2 fronts.

    Isn't murder heinous enough? What difference does the weapon make?

    Will the sudden disappearance of deadly weapons cause people to stop killing each other? No, because they'll invent other ways.

    The focus ought to be on the subject of unjustified killing, in other words: murder. The problem is that society is distracted by the tools, rather than the crime itself.

    We just can't seem to put the blame on the person instead of an inanimate object.

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    Why are we not focused on the criminal instead of the tool?
    Is this concept so confusing?
    I think not.

    The simple truth is that those who are loudest about gun control are simply interested in the "control" portion. This has nothing to do with the safety of the people, only the safety of their power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacii View Post
    The focus is quite simply because of the negative press against semi-automatic rifles right now.

    The reason that the NRA doesn't bring up handguns is because they don't want more restrictions on them either.

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    i think if the American people became more aware of the facts, they would settle down about AR-15s and other rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmy40 View Post
    Why are we not focused on the criminal instead of the tool?
    Is this concept so confusing?
    I think not.

    The simple truth is that those who are loudest about gun control are simply interested in the "control" portion. This has nothing to do with the safety of the people, only the safety of their power.
    this is a common red-herring often made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pythius View Post
    I'd be happy to. 99.9% of car accident deaths are unintentional homicides.
    99.98% percent of statistics are made up on the spot...
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