Why is David Gregory not under arrest?

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    Exactly..instead of folks whining that he is not arrested maybe Mr Lapierre and others can highlite this situation as an example of laws in place that are not being enforced or prosecuted. He should do it in a way that is professional and not accusatory of Mr. Gregory, but use it to sieze the moment and illustrate to folks that we have laws right now.

    Getting down into the gutter and wanted Gregory to be prosecuted is just IMO immature......use this moment and take the high road.

    Mr LaPierre does not need to convince us...he needs to convince everyone else.
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    I'd just be happy if they used Duct Tape on him....... especially on his Pie Hole.
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    The problem that I see is that he broke the law to make a point. Is that ok? Some might say it's just small stuff, but bottom line is that he broke the law. That makes him a law breaker and subject to prosecution and punishment if found guilty.

    He is not "exempt" from the law, none of us are. If someone else held up that 30 round magazine and it was witnessed by others, do we actually believe that person waving the mag would be ignored?

    Prosecute this guy, make an example of him. He is a law breaker.
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    Re: Why is David Gregory not under arrest?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoGunn View Post
    The problem that I see is that he broke the law to make a point. Is that ok? Some might say it's just small stuff, but bottom line is that he broke the law. That makes him a law breaker and subject to prosecution and punishment if found guilty.

    He is not "exempt" from the law, none of us are. If someone else held up that 30 round magazine and it was witnessed by others, do we actually believe that person waving the mag would be ignored?

    Prosecute this guy, make an example of him. He is a law breaker.
    Yes, see? Criminals don't care about gun laws.:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoriBustard View Post
    I just don't understand how someone can display a banned magazine, and then talk about it's "evilness." He's in possession of the very thing that he's harping against. Typical liberal media hypocrisy. I hope they nail him quite frankly.
    Because the law does not apply to him or any of the liberal media just you and maybe me.LOL
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    This incident is actually a great example of why the crazy quilt of gun laws we have in this country stinks to high heaven.

    In NJ it is hollow point. In DC and a few other places, high cap, in some states it is a particular weapon design. In some places
    there is reciprocity with your state and in others not. It is a crazy quilt, and it can't be fixed if everyone hangs on to state's rights positions and opposes things such as national reciprocity--as has occurred here in many threads.

    As for the specific incident, 1) it does illustrate well the idiocy of the differences in law within local jurisdictions; 2) it isn't going
    to be prosecuted because to do so would be absurd; 3) the act might be arguably protected under the press freedom portion of
    1A. DC isn't going to spend its money on that fight, whereas and NBC plus other news producers would.

    A parallel might be prosecuting a reporter because he held a HD containing kiddie porn found on a politician's HD. Yeah, technically the reporter is in illegal possession. Prosecution would be absurd. See #2 above again.

    There have been reports, who knows if they are true of not, that DC police nixed the demonstration, but that inquiries were made to ATF and some sort of OK was given; hard to know if the reports are true or if true would have any bearing on
    whether or not an offense was committed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    If I hold up a bag of powder on video claiming its cocaine,but they can't physically find any cocaine I can't be charged with possession of cocaine
    Well, just to argue for prosecution since I argued against it above, La Pierre was sitting there, no? Would he not be an
    expert witness on whether or not what he saw was real or a prop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2jlking View Post
    The whole issue is ridiculous. I think the OP is just trying to point out the hypocrisy of the act. Actually prosecuting would benefit no one.
    Oh I imagine it would greatly benefit the highest priced defense bar attorneys to be found in America. Beyond that, it would indeed benefit no one.
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    Yes @ Hopyard............ The IRONY of this just kills me............. The Antis will not get how he just 'trapped' himself and NBC, because they are 'smart'.

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    The word is "faux," not "foe."

    And yes, prosecution would benefit no one, and is unlikely in any case. Hopyard's suggestion to use it as a "teaching point" of how stupid a) the law itself is and b) how stupid the mish-mash of federal, state, county, and local laws are seems more appropriate to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    I read where NBC asked DC Police for permission to use it as a prop on the show......DC police denied the request......they used it anyway and were in possession of it.........Prosecute Him....IMO.
    If that was us we would already be in jail...............
    IF true, there was a mess up. But, there are also some reports floating around that ATF was also consulted and provided
    a different opinion.

    I think Suntzu hit the ball out of the park with this comment: " Sure, make an example out of this guy and then we have no leg to stand on when we defend gun owners that break the law (like going to NYC with a firearm) because we feel the law is stupid."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    IF true, there was a mess up. But, there are also some reports floating around that ATF was also consulted and provided
    a different opinion.

    I think Suntzu hit the ball out of the park with this comment: " Sure, make an example out of this guy and then we have no leg to stand on when we defend gun owners that break the law (like going to NYC with a firearm) because we feel the law is stupid."
    That is a cover up/missinfo-backstory ahead of the game, to get the DC Police off of the hook.............

    They realize this 'hat of a butt' just made them look really stupid on National TV........ and he is currently on Vacation and will not host the next Meet the Press show.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANGLICO View Post
    That is a cover up/missinfo-backstory ahead of the game, to get the DC Police off of the hook.............

    They realize this 'hat of a butt' just made them look really stupid on National TV........ and he is currently on Vacation and will not host the next Meet the Press show.....................
    Dang, I usually don't agree with a lot of your views, but yes, I think you hit the nail on the head with that comment.
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    That is a cover up/missinfo-backstory ahead of the game,
    You forgot red flag, red herring, conspiracy, plot, and scheme
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    Aside from a few shall arrest statutes, LEO's have pretty wide discretion to arrest or not arrest at the individual officer level. Some of the stuff non-journalist people do every day, could lead to arrests, if every LEO went by the letter of the law, not the intent. That said, who can say from the video if that magazine is actually high capacity as per DC law? Just because he said it was, does not make it so. My LGS had Pmags fixed to legal limit for NJ,that are same size as normal 30rnd Pmags, but can only take the legal limit.
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