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    She uses a well worn tactic... Simply overload on demands so that you get the basic of what you want and anything else is the icing.
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    Re: Feinsteins proposed 2013 AWB

    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    The government is all about legalized thievery. Right now they cant stand the fact that the biggest untapped reserve of money in the United States is your 401K program.As we sleep, they are figuring out a way to legally steal that.Dont worry...its coming. Why do you think that they want your guns?
    I was thinking of making reference to another "fund raising law" but I'm not so sure now after reading your post, HotGuns.

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    "In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devises" -Feinstein's official website

    Not to mention, she seeks to ban these mysterious "devises"

    ... learn to spell.

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    There is nothing new here. It is basically same random list of ignorantly 'Demand' stuff to be banned because it is painted black, and has a bunch of bullets.................(weapons or 'features') from 1994..................

    Go Figure! Would she just, um, retire now............... We are tired of her...............

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    From her bill:
    "Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic."

    Darn there go all such weapons since they all have one military characteristic -- bullets...
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    Well, I am not particularly laughing at this. In case we haven't noticed, there is a huge ground-swell of popular support for a renewed AWB.

    Will it pass? I don't know. But contained in this proposed bill is the proverbial "horse's nose in the door" (once the horse gets its nose in the door, its just a matter of time before it forces the rest of its body thru the door)--and that would be making all AWB fall under the NFA--

    ----which means that we all would be REQURIED to register our ARs/AKs. That means (I believe) that anytime you take your evil AR/AK out of your house you need to have your NFA card with you and any LEO seeing you with one of the "banned" weapons can ask you for your card. No card? Do not Pass go, go straight to jail--oh yeah, then you'd likely be a felon--and all those nice other evil guns you own, (shotguns, handguns, plinkers, etc) well, you can't own or use them anymore since you are now a felon..........

    Once they start making us register our evil assualt weapons, how long before they make us start to register our other evil guns??
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    I've often said in my local circles they are going to start treating the so called "assault weapons" as NFA items - and lookie what we have here. No surprise.
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    Seems like "infringement" to me.

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    Most of the new stuff isnt enforcible in any way. Unless you live in a state where both handguns AND long guns are already registered with the local authorities.

    Where I live in MI for example.. my handguns are registered with the police.. they know I bought them, own them.. if i sell them, that registration gets trasnferred... now my rifles... other than the bill of sale at the store... if I sold them private party, or gifted them to someone.. nobody knows but me...

    Them: "Sir, 10 years ago you bought a WASR 10 at Duncan's Outdoor Shop in Bay City, Michigan... we need to inspect that firearm and register it with the ATF."

    ME: "Oh yeah, I sold that gun years ago...I dont own it anymore."

    Them: "Where is the bill of sale showing this transfer of ownership"

    ME: "Probably dont have it anymore, state law doesnt require me to keep it indefinitely, so I'm sure it was thrown out into the trash."

    Them: "dang it ... OK sir, have a nice day."

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    The restriction on magazine capacity is particularly ludicrous. Unless there's a limit on how many magazines a person can own, I don't understand that logic. Well, I don't understand any of the gun control "logic," but the magazine thing is especially egregious. These people live in a fantasy world.

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    Anyone care to handicap the passage of this for me? I have an abysmal record when it comes to predicting political events.
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    As for a groundswell of support for the AWB, there has been an increase but the polling data is mixed:

    Gun control poll shows mixed results

    Frankly, this data makes me optimistic about the chances of a new AWB. On balance, I do not believe there will be any significant changes to gun laws. Hopefully at this time next year there will be two groups of unhappy people, anti 2A people and the people that bought PMags at $75...
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    Sounds like what we already have here in NJ..............NG.

    One would expect that a Jewish woman would realize what it means to be able to defend onesself and family especially with thier history.....maybe Hitler wouldn't have been so quick to round up and destroy her people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJ View Post
    Most of the new stuff isnt enforcible in any way. Unless you live in a state where both handguns AND long guns are already registered with the local authorities.

    Where I live in MI for example.. my handguns are registered with the police.. they know I bought them, own them.. if i sell them, that registration gets trasnferred... now my rifles... other than the bill of sale at the store... if I sold them private party, or gifted them to someone.. nobody knows but me...

    Them: "Sir, 10 years ago you bought a WASR 10 at Duncan's Outdoor Shop in Bay City, Michigan... we need to inspect that firearm and register it with the ATF."

    ME: "Oh yeah, I sold that gun years ago...I dont own it anymore."

    Them: "Where is the bill of sale showing this transfer of ownership"

    ME: "Probably dont have it anymore, state law doesnt require me to keep it indefinitely, so I'm sure it was thrown out into the trash."

    Them: "dang it ... OK sir, have a nice day."
    The intricacies of enforcing it aren't the issue. The issue is everybody who chooses to ignore the new Federal law becomes a felon. So hundreds of thousands of peaceful, law abiding members of society become criminals overnight. I'm not any more comfortable with that than I am having to register my newly regulated rifles so some hack politician can have another 10 minutes of fame. Screw them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    Once they start making us register our evil assualt weapons, how long before they make us start to register our other evil guns??
    Here's a hint, the AWB won't reduce crime (just like the last one didn't), and will be expanded to include handgun registration after the next tragedy.

    Once they codify the premise that more guns = less crime, they cannot stop until crime is magically reduced, there is a near total ban on privately owned guns, or they admit they were wrong.

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