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    Sent my letters!

    Thanks for making the video!
    Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men -St. Augustine


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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    There is an estimated 90 million gun owners in the US right?
    It's a shame we can't all band together. That's just about a third of the U.S. population.
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    ^^^^^^^^ what "SDG" said, and there is the need for a single common cause. No hair splitting. Strength in numbers. Believe in 2nd amendment rights or don't. Amen brother!
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    Almost a million views combined on the Word association thread and What do you carry thread. Averaging 13-16,000 people online daily but only 800+ views of this thread with a thought provoking video. Let's try and get at least 25,000 views on this one. Watch the video and think. I seriously hope it will lead to action for so many more who are on the fence or feel all will be OK.

    Mods: Is it worth a sticky? Just asking. Want us all to think and act peacefully. Own our rights.
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    Indeed it does suck and will..so I'm doing my part and calling and writing my local and state reps... only semi autos I own that qualify if it's and "AND" and not a "OR" ...and my gut tells me it's an "OR" but we'll see....is my glock26 and my sig p238 (no-rail)...everything else has a picatinny rail. ..are XS big dot sights a military feature? What about short reset triggers, reduced muzzle bore axis (advantageous for followup shots, recoil/muzzle flip control, "fighting" if you will..)

    What is a standard run of the mill handgun nowadays anyhow? From the collection I have, it leaves me with not a clue..and of the list of ones I'd conceivably be begrudgingly convinced to give up (wheel guns and pocket pistols) it doesnt strike me that the ones I'll cry like a whipped Curr to lose are the ones she'll want me to keep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    As to the posted video I did find a possible misunderstanding or her bill. No, I am not in any way defend her bill. At around 6:30 into the video he talks about Glock and other handguns will be banned however after viewing a summary of the bill she will introduce I do see it as he did. The following is from the summary: "Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
    Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic." As I see it unless your handgun has a military characteristic(why that makes it more dangerous is anyone's guess) it will not be banned. Although in the summary no weapon will be allowed to have more than a 10 round magazine(detachable or fixed)
    It doesn't appear to be a misunderstanding. See the NRA-ILA's comments on their website.

    NRA-ILA | Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill

    From the NRA website:
    Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm “overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.” Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines “overwhelmingly chosen” by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.
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    I know this is a sticky, but I just wanted to bump this back into the active topics section... for those of us (like me) who generally just check the topics there. This video is a must watch!
    Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men -St. Augustine

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    Found this little gem, evidently addressed to Feinstein via her Senator website:

    In the words of an actor and in reference to assault weapons, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

    Below are a few links. They are from hunters. It would behoove you or someone in your office to look at them and think about what they mean.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...2-8-07Hogs.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...AK_hog_bst.jpg

    http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...9/IMG_4459.jpg

    http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...0130000803.jpg

    http://pictures.second-amendment.org...001/pig-ar.jpg

    http://cdn.ammoland.com/files/wp-con...ig-hunting.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../Photo0042.jpg

    http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/v...t/100_3056.jpg

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Arms_AR15.jpg

    http://www.gunandgame.com/wp-content...comp_large.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...y/P1010048.jpg


    The AK-47 patterned rifles in the first pictures are chambered in 7.62x39. It is almost identical to the venerable .30-30, the iconic deer-hunting cartridge common to lever-action rifles. The average AK-patterned rifle is about as accurate as the average lever action rifle. Unlike the lever-action rifles, AK-patterned rifles' reliability and ease of handling make them more suitable for dispatching hog and wolf, which frequently travel in groups in thick brush and can very quickly become aggressive toward humans.

    The AR-15 in the latter group of pictures can be chambered in many different calibers. It is, in fact, one of the most widely used hunting rifles in the United States. It is reliable, versatile, and inherently accurate (on average about as accurate or only slightly less so than the average entry level bolt action rifle by Savage Arms, Remington, or Winchester). This rifle is without a doubt the most popular centerfire, semi-automatic rifle owned in the United States.

    Having said this, the vast majority of firearms owners in the United States do not hunt. As of August 2012, as reported by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar in a study for the US Fish and Wildlife Service, about 13.7 million Americans hunted between 2007 and 2012. There are over 270 million firearms in the United States. According to the US Census Bureau, in 2009 over 40% of households in the country reported owning firearms. A 2005 nationwide Gallup poll of 1,012 adults found that only 40% of them owned firearms to hunt; nearly 70% owned them for personal protection.

    In studying the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban, rise of Shall Issue concealed carry licensing, and other gun laws, the Center for Disease Control found "insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes" (First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws). The following charts also warrant inspection:

    http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/chicago.png
    http://www.justfacts.com/images/gunc...o_handguns.png
    http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc.png

    These are consistent with the CDC and economist John Lott's findings that gun control laws appear to have no impact on crime rates, violent or otherwise, or on whether firearms are used in crimes.

    As a peace loving citizen and law enforcement officer in training, I urge you and your office to either reconsider your position on new and largely pointless (symbolic) legislation, or to explain in vivid detail exactly why each named item in the proposed ban infringes upon someone else's exercise of life, liberty, and the pursuits thereof.

    Thank you for your time and stay safe.

    Sincerely,


    J

    Methinks I'll be stealing it and modifying it a bit for ease of public consumption.
    RIP, Jeff Dorr: 1964 - July 17, 2009. You will be missed.


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